[carpetbagger]

Originally Posted by flecc

It that case it's just traffic calming and daft as you say Hal. We have the same pinch point islands but always with pedestrian crossing incorporated. many of them are the long dog leg safety type with railings so people can't just run straight across, they have to do a left and right in the middle



Absolutely not, the Croydon Cycling Campaign are always attacking the council over their negative attitudes and some of the daft traffic decisions they take. This is almost all TfL work, the Trams as a PPP initially but now taken over by TfL. The bus, bus shelter and main route Toucan crossings have to be TfL of course.

We do have 20 mph zones at all school points but we had to push the council into instituting adequate ones, and they've spoilt some of them for cyclists by including the sharp edged "chocolate block" type of traffic calming platforms.

But really Hal, to say Ken has been neutral towards cycling simply doesn't stand examination and is grossly unfair. He is the one who has driven the cycle lane budget upwards against the GLC council opposition, it reaching £24 million in some years. He also instigated the free cycle route maps for London against opposition. He is the one who has driven the cycle parking facilities against opposition from many local councils, and it was he who started the full page advertising campaign to get cyclists treated better by other road users. He is the one who proposed cycle "motorways" and the Paris style cycle hire scheme, now both dead since he hasn't been elected.
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if you know kens email address flecc,i think i will advise him that he should become mayor of blackburn.....i she he could improve things around here