Tour of Britain – Stage 3 , eZee vs Kalkhoff

[flecc]

Originally Posted by HarryB

Yes as standard my Agattu would do 37 miles on a battery - my Torq wouldn't get near that but it would go a bit faster. I am not sure what it is supposed to prove either and if it is a bit of fun why all the rules about number of batteries? Are there any Pro-connects entered anyway?

The challenge was to David at A to B as it was his review which Wai Won scorned, so the Pro Connect is what David is going to ride. He did make a mischievous aside to me about thinking of riding a Wisper instead though.

The number of batteries was proposed by Wai Won as four since he didn't believe the Pro Connect would make the distance on those. David suggested three, and that's how many batteries now. That will really test both bikes ability if the whole 113 miles is ridden.

Personally, with these riders in their 50s on that route, I think an ambulance, defibrilator and oxygen should be on standby, and I'm not joking about that, the risk is real.
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[riggo]

Originally Posted by keithhazel

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by "street legal"...

does this mean that NO deristricted bike can enter ?...

does it mean that no bike that had smaller sprockets added to go beyond the legal 15 mph can enter ?..

Street legal means exactly that, so no derestriction or assistance above 15mph, after all if the trial is taking place on the public highway the bike has to be legal.

If modified bikes want to join in they can just for fun, but their results will not be recorded and the bikes will not be scrutinized, they will be mass started after all the street legal machines have departed.

After speaking to David Henshaw it has been proposed to move the date of the trial to Sunday 14/09/08, this opens it to more people and makes marshalling, logistics, etc a lot easier.

The route will be circular, with a common start finish point located in the small town of Beaminster,Dorset, there will be facilities for charging batteries, parking vehicles,etc and possibly the provision of basic camping facilities

The route will still take in some of the original ToB stage

Riggo

[flecc]

If you get a chance to post the route and it's length that will be appreciated Riggo.
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[Tiberius]

Hi Riggo,

Talk about trying to hit a moving target.

Yesterday this was restricted to a small number of people who were going to do the ride. I was one of them; I signed up to do this because I thought it was an interesting challenge, as well as being on my home turf, so to speak. I am not an athlete or a professional rider, I suppose I am one of flecc's risk group for the ambulance and defibrillator. For me, a big part of the interest was that it was the actual ToB course.

Yesterday we were having an email discussion among the participants. First we were given a set of rules which excluded me on multiple counts. That was solved by agreeing an open class.

This morning though, I wake up and find that the consultation period is over and the discussion has moved to a public forum. Lots of things have changed overnight - but worst of all is that it has moved to a date that I can't make. I will be in Italy on that Sunday.

Riggo, I don't think any of this is your fault. I think its just that there have been some confused objectives here, and it hasn't helped to have part of the discussions in several closed groups and part in public.

But I am bitterly disappointed. I have repeatedly on this forum suggested some kind of event in September that is a different format to Prestiegne. Now that seems to be happening, and on my doorstep. But you've chosen a set of rules that makes me a hanger on rather than a participant and a date that means I can't come.

Nick

[Wisper Bikes]

Hi Riggo, excuse me but I have not read the complete thread.

Is this a private event or can anyone join in?

Best regards David

[flecc]

As Riggo hasn't come back in yet David, it's open to everyone, rules as above. Street legal only in the competition and subject to strict scrutiny, but also an open class for those wishing to ride uncompetitively for fun.

With 3 batteries allowed, your 14 Ah bikes might waltz around the course twice.
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[riggo]

The rough outline of the route I should have ready in the next 7 days, the exact route will not be released until the actual day of the trial, this is to stop people dumping extra batteries or other possible devious behaviour. The distance will be much the same as the ToB stage, approx. 100 miles

The date of the event was decided between David Henshaw and myself as the most suitable, I know some will not be able to make it, but thats life, I can't please all the people all the time, If people wish to ride the ToB route on the 9/9/08 then there is nothing to stop them. If the majority still want the event to take place on the 9th Sept then I shall gladly step aside and let somebody else sort out the rules and logistics.

cheers

Riggo

[JohnofCambridge]

Back to the rules Riggo. If you get people signed up to these, it would be useful to collect some other data such as weight of bike and rider, age category of biker and rough mileage covered cycling in the preceding 6 weeks. Even this will not take out all the variables but should give us data for some good arguments for years!!!!!

I am not sure what you are proposing would turn into an annual counterbalance event to Presteigne - in fact it will be very difficult to do a Presteigne elsewhere.

However, do let us know if you see what you are doing as a possible repeatable event for the Autumn. If you are not thinking of it and there are some in the forum interested in doing something in the east midlands or east anglia then I would be happy to help.

John

[riggo]

If the event is successful then it could be annual and I see no reason that it could not move around the country, I for one am excluded from Presteigne because it is nearly impossible to get to using public transport, I went two years ago and felt very very guilty putting my bike in a car and driving it to a supposed environmental event!

To those that said the rules and dates should not have been decided behind closed doors I apologise, it is just that myself and David Henshaw wanted to get the event up and running within a short time frame.

John, I think collecting data on riders as well as bikes could be useful, we could do a brief fitness test using an excercise bike and heartrate monitor ? anybody with knowledge in this field? any workable ideas would be welcome?

Riggo

[Wisper Bikes]

Originally Posted by flecc

As Riggo hasn't come back in yet David, it's open to everyone, rules as above. Street legal only in the competition and subject to strict scrutiny, but also an open class for those wishing to ride uncompetitively for fun.

With 3 batteries allowed, your 14 Ah bikes might waltz around the course twice.
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Thanks Flecc

Still not sure how to enter

All the best David