Tour of Britain – Stage 3 , eZee vs Kalkhoff - Page 13 - Pedelec Forums

flecc · #**121** (**permalink**) 25th July 2008, 00:25

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Originally Posted by keithhazel

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this could turn out to be mr Ching first past the line breaking open the bubbly......... with ONLY HIM on the podeum...

Especially as he's riding on a different day.

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keithhazel · #**122** (**permalink**) 25th July 2008, 00:45

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Originally Posted by flecc

Especially as he's riding on a different day.

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headlines in A&B magazine the following month as edited by a "bike maker"..

"i had been training heavily for weeks now just for this day,all went as planned and i "ezzeeily" led from the front and was first past the finishing line without another bike in sight, thus proving once and for all that my bikes are the best and i'm not all "tork" ....

Tiberius · #**123** (**permalink**) 25th July 2008, 01:30

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Originally Posted by flecc

Especially as he's riding on a different day.

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Hi flecc,

You seem to know more about what's going on than the participants do, and to find out about the changes before we do. Could you tell us the latest, please?

Nick

flecc · #**124** (**permalink**) 25th July 2008, 01:55

I wish I really knew for certain Nick. I believe there are some date difficulties, but I'm waiting to hear from David on what's happening.
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WaiWonChing · #**125** (**permalink**) 25th July 2008, 13:29

Ladies and Gentlemen,

I have not asked for a duel to the death nor am I seeking victory and glory, there is no need, I am quite confident the eZee will outclass the Pro Connect and it will become the Pro-dis-connect on such an event with 113 miles over some stretches of hills. You think 4 x 270 wh of batteries will beat 4 x 370 wh ? You think the efficiency of eZee bike is that much lower ? It is not any lower by any measure maybe even a little higher.

Energy consumption goes up exponentially with speed, and the bend normally takes place from my experience at about 14 - 16 mph. We will demonstrate what happen at 15 mph and what happens at 20 mph, and on hill climbing.

I just wanted to get if possible all the facts on the table, with all matters that matter totally on one picture, not a bit here, and a bit there.

I put up the challenge, and I will not be dictated by others with dates that are not possible for me. I have to travel from Shanghai, and I have a stand at the Eurobike show Sept 3 - 7 to attend to, and my schedule now for the ride on the 10th Sept. will not be changing baring some totally unforeseen circumstances. Sorry to disappoint those who think I would be there all by myself. I don't need a crowd , all I need is a few honourable gentlemen to ride with me and witness the event. I will have a Cycleanalyst attached, and I will also have a digital camera attached to the handle bar and I will take photo with date and time on it. There are at present 4 persons confirmed riding with me, including me 5, ( maybe another 2 may join in that is not confirmed yet,) and one of them is David Henshaw who will ride our new Torq. It is unfortunate that 50cycles is not willing to loan David the bike on that date, but it does not matter. What matters is we will record what happened on that ride by 5 different persons over 113 miles on the same stage 3 of the Tour of Britain with the eZee Torq , eZee Forza and our proto-type the E1. What could be done by Pros already in the news on Sept 9th don't need more Lycra team for that.

W W Ching

Conal · #**126** (**permalink**) 25th July 2008, 14:10

All

I am sure that all who take part, whether on the 10th or the 14th, will have an enjoyable day out. Just in case Ching's point gets lost in future postings, he has explained that he can't make the 10th because it would mean that would have stay in England for four more days. I do not interpret this as anything other than a statement of fact, and solely due to his busy schedule, which was why he planned for the 9th/10th in the first place.
I am sure that we will all learn from the two events - I think that I will learn that I am not as young or as fit as I think (and I think I am old and very unfit!)

Conal

john · #**127** (**permalink**) 25th July 2008, 14:22

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Originally Posted by frank9755

Could you even insist they didn't use it, if you didn't also insist that the Torq users kept their bikes below 15.5mph? I think it has to be production bikes, used to their capabilities.

I don't think Wisper would condone the use of de-restriction on a public road and it would not be classed as street legal by them in this mode.

Anyway, I should think that a Wisper would put up a good fight with three of it's big batteries even in restricted mode.

50cycles · #**128** (**permalink**) 25th July 2008, 16:30

Hi

Just for the record it is a pointless exercise on 4 batteries and proves nothing when we already know that the Pro connect can do that distance on 3 batteries.

Who would ever carry 4 x Huge Heavy Ezee Batteries.

We would be happy to donate a bike if it was 3 batteries but a waste of time with 4. If Ching really believes in the power of the bike and battery he would agree to 3 batteries and make it a real test of the bikes distance over speed.

I think the superiority of the Pro Connect was clearly proven on Lloyds, Tour de France leg the L'Alpe-d'Huez with 3 lights still remaining. A torq would have needed 3 batteries just for that leg alone if it ever reached the top at all.

Having so much experience on both bikes it is quite clear to see which is a winner from the bikes we now distribute on our website. Ezee is not even in the running I am afraid to say.

Regards

Scott

burncycle · #**129** (**permalink**) 25th July 2008, 17:18

I think you need to both grow up and get over it.
With these bikes its horses for courses.

Why dony you put more effort into improving the bikes and improving customer care.
Now there's a test for you both !

Conal · #**130** (**permalink**) 25th July 2008, 17:38

Scott
I will be riding with Ching on the 10th, and will be carrying 4 batteries. I have read all the posts and can understand the many points of view.
My reasoning is simple. I do not know how far 3 or 4 batteries will take me. I do not think that carrying the third extra battery will make that much difference to the overall weight and would be annoyed (with myself) if, only carrying two extra batteries, I approached a hill towards the end of the route and ran out of power.
In a way the fact that we are riding a few days before the other event on a similar route is a good idea as this "trial run" will be of help to others. If on our feedback we give distance, speed, how we used power assist, individual weights, and other details, then this can be used constructively to ensure that people know how many batteries to take on the second event, or at least the power output we used.
Conal