A new Electric Bike - but which one???

[Wisper Bikes]

Hi Dirk

Even though we have been working on the bike for nearly three years we have only been selling it for about 6 months so we haven't had time to create a reputation!

To this end,

I would be delighted to send you a bike to try.

If you like it we would take your payment, if you don't we will collect it at no cost to you.

Or if it's easier you can go to Cambridge and try it (Wisper Knight Rider is the same vehicle) or come to the new forest or Swanscombe.

Best regards David

[JohnInStockie]

Originally Posted by Wisper Bikes

Hi Dirk

Even though we have been working on the bike for nearly three years we have only been selling it for about 6 months so we haven't had time to create a reputation!

To this end,

I would be delighted to send you a bike to try.

If you like it we would take your payment, if you don't we will collect it at no cost to you.

Or if it's easier you can go to Cambridge and try it (Wisper Knight Rider is the same vehicle) or come to the new forest or Swanscombe.

Best regards David

Well you cant say fairer than that!

It would be cool if both Ezee and Wisper offered say a 7 day trial bike, or a 30 day no quibble money back offer like you see on those shopping channels, then we would all get to try your bikes and buy accordingly.

John

[electric.mike]

wisper bikes

Hi Dirk

Even though we have been working on the bike for nearly three years we have only been selling it for about 6 months so we haven't had time to create a reputation!

To this end,

I would be delighted to send you a bike to try.

If you like it we would take your payment, if you don't we will collect it at no cost to you.

Or if it's easier you can go to Cambridge and try it (Wisper Knight Rider is the same vehicle) or come to the new forest or Swanscombe.

Best regards David

well done wisper lets hope the time comes when your reputation matches ezee, we need more reputable dealers out there.

mike

[flecc]

I echo John and Mike's comments.

Nice one David at Wisper, there's no better illustration of confidence than that for Dirk.
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[clarkscars]

Further to this thread, I have a Wisper Bike 905e and it comes complete with everything, mudguards, bell, lock, tools, helmet and parcel carrier! I presume you took the discount rather than the goodies..

They also let me try the bike for 3 days before I purchased, and didnt take any money until I said I would have it!!

I understood that when I bought it there would be discount if I didn't have all of the "extras". This is also in all of the internet sales sites this bike is on.

I bought it from their shop in New Milton about 4 months ago and have had great service. I am 61, just over 19 stones and 6ft 4" and travel 6 miles a day to work with some pretty steep hills, with case and lunch in tow!

I charge the battery after every 2 days although it never shows empty, so I would guess I would get 28-30 miles plus 'til flat! Slimmer people would get more I guess.

For the record I manage a cab firm and this is the only excercise I get so peddaling was not a strong point!

I did try many of the others but the look of them were not to my liking, I was also told by the Wisper guys that they designed this bike and are the importers as well as distributors, hence the vast difference in cost between the others.

In short, the bike is great for me, it was loads lighter than any other I tried and would reccomend it to anyone

Regards Alan Manders

[flecc]

Thanks for sharing this performance information Alan, and I'm pleased that you're having such a good experience. Certainly I'd expect the bike to give a good range in that fairly flat area that I'm familiar with, but it's common for e-bike range to drop markedly in steep hill areas. I mention this as a precautionary note for others, and it's something true for all makes of e-bikes.

I was aware of the price structure differences between the company's website and their ebay entries, but base my statements on the website.

Distributors are usually the importers as well, but in virtually every case the distributor/importer is NOT the manufacturing company, so there's virtually always two businesses in the supply chain. Where a dealer is involved as in your case, there's three. As a businessman yourself you'll appreciate the importance of ensuring there is no misinformation given here. For example, your bike was previously marketed as the Knight Rider and I understand that the Chinese manufacturer has offered their products to other importers previously. Of course Wisper do have design input, as do other distributors on their respective products.
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[Wisper Bikes]

Hi Alan

I thought the idea of buying a Wisper and pedaling to work was to lose weight?!!

Great to hear from you again, there is going to be a E bike rally at Sammy Miller's on July 15th, it would be good to see you there.

Best regards David

[Wisper Bikes]

Hi Flecc

To put this to bed once and for all.

Wisper Electric Vehicle Company (China) Ltd (WEVCCO) designed the 905e and own the tooling.

Wisper Electic Vehicle Company Limited own 67% of WEVCCO 33% is owned by our Chinese partners. Hence we are, very positively, the manufacturer.

The Knight Rider is a Wisper Works 905e and they are supplied directly from our Swanscombe warehouse to one of our dealers.

You can buy copies of anything in China, would you like an "Ezee Tork" made for you, as you seem to be so keen on them? Or maybe you would like a "Sony Ipod" or a "Gucci" hand bag or a "Rolex" watch, they are all available! HOWEVER - none of them are as good as the real thing.

If you would like a "Tork" or a "Liv" I am sure we could get one that looks almost exactly the same, however they would not be a patch on the real Tork or Liv, which are super products.

Regarding the hill climbing abilities of all ebikes, yes they are not as good going up steep hills as they are on the flat.

However the lightweight, high speed brushless motor we use is superb at hill climbing as you would discover if you ever took us up on or countless offers of a test ride.


As always very best regards David

[flecc]

Thank you for the clarification of the trading situation that exists now David.

I don't know how you got the idea that I was so keen on the Torq, since on entry after entry in this site I've been critical of it's steep hill climb capabilities, this of course being the inevitable result of overgearing for speed which I've endlessly explained. I've also published it's comparative climb figures with other bikes, and had your 905e been around when I did that, it could have been included in the chart and in that case would have joined the others which are better climbers.

That's due to it having a normally geared Hall effect motor, used by most e-bikes these days, which in most cases also qualify for the same adjectives you've used. This being an immature market, e-bike information in the UK is heavy with hype often evidenced as adjectives liberally sprinkled around, and I have always identified that whenever it crops up or is suspected. I cannot exclude Wisper from that process in a site which primarily exists for consumers. You have the right of reply which I'm glad you exercise fully.

As you see above in an earlier entry, I'm not slow to praise where praise is due, as it was in respect of the service you were offering.

I don't need to try it to know from it's components that the 905e is a sound, powerful electric bike which compares well with many others on the market. It inevitably has a mix of technical advantages and disadvantages like any other product, though oddly enough you never seem to mention it's biggest advantage, and were previously reticent about another advantage, leaving me in the dark although I'd asked for that information. Those genuine advantages are worth more to consumers than all the adjectives in the OED.

Likewise there's the disadvantage to prospective customers of the confusion of different pricing models in different locations, for which I can see no balancing advantage.
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[JohnInStockie]

fyi - It appears that some bike shops STILL have the old version of the Giant Twist in stock. Just noticed both the Comfort GTS and the Lite GTS for sale this website.