Need Help To Derestrict Ezee Torq

[frank9755]

Oh dear! I can't see the new Torq selling so well now. I always thought the 'derestrict' option was a core part of the proposition. Now they've neutered the motor, will anyone want them?

A shame as the old Torq was something of a classic.

Gutted!!

I read a rather opinionated thread about 50 cycles which I think Flecc ended. I dont want to get into what is legally binding on a web page but I am somewhat annoyed that I paid £1245 for a bike and was misled as to its specificaton.

The bottom line is that as a retailer you should know your product. Ezee also have a responsibility in this so its a slap on the wrist all round.

I will comfort myself with the fact that I love my bike and get great pleasure riding it.

I guess the land speed record will have to wait for a while - now where did I put that nitro kit

[flecc]

I didn't end the thread you mention Stokepa31, I don't have the access or authority to do that. It was closed by the site administrator.

I understand you being upset about this, it's disappointing to say the least.

One consolation if you tackle any hills is the large gain on those. That was a big weakness with the old Torq, and it led to many selling their bikes again at quite a loss because they just weren't up to their needs in hilly areas due to the high geared motor and derailleur.

I think they'll all be restricted soon if the European law is fully enforced as expected.
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[coops]

I wonder if the UK Torq2s can be fitted with the same motor eZee sell in Canada then (which seems to do similar speed to the original Torq motor), if the UK motors really are limited/geared to 15mph? They must have quite some torque if they are geared for 15mph maximum rather than limited, given the peak power is over 600W gross!

Stuart.

Sorry flecc my mistake.

I cant knock the bike to be honest, its a great piece of kit and i'm sure there was no intent to deceive. one of those things I guess

[flecc]

I don't think they are in view of the eZee reply Stuart.

It looks like they use the 250 watt stator/controller in our product and the 350 watt ones in the US/Canadian version.

That would make it the same as they do with the Sprint motor, 350 watt there, 250 watt here.

The Torq on that Quando motor is still huge when geared for legal speeds, as good or better than just about any other e-bike.
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I notice the 50 cycles website is still displaying the bike is capable of 22ph when deresticted. They need to take that down or perhaps they now have the answer and have reinstated it!?!?!

[flecc]

Originally Posted by stokepa31

i'm sure there was no intent to deceive. one of those things I guess

As you say, just one of those things, but I wish it didn't happen so often. These problems are common right through the e-bike field, and much of it is due to it being such a small industry.

They are a small fish in a big bicycle industry, probably well below one percent, so tail end charlies where supplies are concerned. Add to that the vagaries of Chinese production and standards, plus the variations that hand building brings, and you have a situation where the principals in the industry are fire-fighting the constant stream of problems rather than managing. eZee's principals spend much of their life flying to and from China to keep on top, and that's been the experience of the Wisperbike owners too.

There's a good side though. It makes me glad I'm retired.
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[flecc]

Originally Posted by stokepa31

I notice the 50 cycles website is still displaying the bike is capable of 22ph when deresticted. They need to take that down or perhaps they now have the answer and have reinstated it!?!?!

No, I'm sure there's no answer, as it seems the bike's motor is geared for legality and won't have a restrictor. You'll know that by what yours does.

If it runs to more than 15.5 mph when the battery is freshly charged, it's geared for legal speeds and doesn't have a restrictor. I'm almost sure this is the one.

If it cuts power at dead on 15.5 mph regardless of the battery charge state, it's likely it has a restrictor, though no connector to vary that now.
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[HarryB]

Just to clarify things. Are we saying that the US/UK versions use the same motor but the controller determines the output either 350W or 250W? Or do they use different motors for different markets?

With regard to the 50 cycles page still showing it as being capable of 22mph -the problem is that they have two separate but similar webpages for the Torq (perhaps for the other ranges as well). This seems to have cropped up before - but must be difficult to keep both pages up to date.