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20th December 2006, 16:31
That's ok then beeps. The risk of being stopped for anything like this is near to zero anyway, so no need to hide in the bike shed.
The problem might arise at some time in the future when there's been a fatality and the police decide to do their full scale thorough accident investigation. An overweight bike subsequently found to overperform as well could open a whole can of worms, especially if only supplied through ebay direct from outside the European law area.
That could trigger action of a more widespread nature by all forces.
Last edited by flecc; 20th December 2006 at 16:33.
20th December 2006, 18:10
i hope it won't come to that, because if mine is illegal then so are all the Power Cruiser bikes that are used by the 10 police forces around the country, see the ebay advert:
eBay.co.uk: The fantastic Power Cruiser 1 Electric Bike (item 180062758319 end time 14-Dec-06 13:26:49 GMT)
it was the fact that the cops used them, encouraged me to buy one......
doesn't the cop look cute on his checkered cruiser ? ( i reckon i could out-pedal him LOL)
mine is a slightly different frame... plus jewelry.
but, as you point out, it does raise some interesting issues, i believe the laws are different in some European countries, further complicated by 'assisted or not' issues and the use of throttles as well, more so, once the legal compliance of a national limiter is breached by 'tinkering' you are in fact 'with intent'. another whole ball game, would this have ramifications for the Torq users who have disconnected their controllers limitation circuits.
the whole area is a minefield, and i'm sure we're all aware that it needs clarification and adjustment for present day conditions of traffic, in some countries i believe electric bikes are classed as mopeds, not allowed on cycle paths or lanes, in Switzerland the speed limit is 50km/h.
as you say, it is not likely ( i hope) that i will find myself pulled over, i'm hardly doing doughnuts in the car park, but if i were to be, it would be useful to know what the real applicable situation is, re weight, for instance.
has any of our members any experience ?
Originally Posted by flecc
7th January 2007, 14:09
13th January 2007, 19:09
I`ve taken delivery this week of a Synergie Shamal folding bike - early impressions are very positive. I wonder if there are many Synergie users out there who regularly read this forum - it would be good to exchange experiences and advice. Cheers.
13th January 2007, 20:10
Hi and welcome to the forum!
There is another forum on Yahoo related to Synergie bikes which you may also want to visit:
synergieusergroup : Synergie User Group
We look forward to hearing more about your bike and what you intend to use it for!
13th January 2007, 20:15
Interesting mrail1982. Let us know how you get on with it over time, or enter a review in this site. I recognise some of it's parts as those also used in in some models of some other makes, Powercycle and Urban Raider etc. I think there's a major Chinese manufacturer supplying a variety of assembly companies, so things like spare batteries etc should be easily available in future.
6th February 2007, 14:12
I'm not exactly a newcomer to this site having posted a few things on it already (and asked a few questions, all answered) but I've now taken the plunge and bought an electric bike! I've decided to go for the Synergie Mistral after all (a standard rear hub job, no doubt manufactured in China). A couple of things swung it, price and styling. The current price represents just ten months bus fare to me and anything that gets me off Birmingham buses has to be a good thing. As for styling, well it is unassuming, meaning it won't attract unwonted attention on the city streets. I haven't had chance to uncrate it yet, so can't comment further but will keep you informed on how it performs over the coming months.
6th February 2007, 15:03
Congratulations on your new bike halfmedley. You've probably noticed the warning on the Synergie Ebay page about charging the Li-ion battery every trip, however short, and that's good advice. I don't know how long your commute is, but the less you discharge each time the better for long life.
Judging by the very small size of the battery, it's probably cobalt based and would definitely benefit from minimum discharges with frequent charges.
6th February 2007, 16:14
Thanks Flecc, I feel like a fully paid up member of the electric bike community now. The learning curve starts here!
My commute is a twelve mile round trip, six miles of mostly downhill into the city centre, and conversely a groan-inducing six miles of mostly uphill on the return home. I won't use up much charge on the way in (hopefully) but plenty on the way back. Should I recharge at both ends of the journey for optimum battery life do you think? I guess it's a bit trial and error to begin with, but I would like to preserve battery life as long as possible. Seeing as it's a Li-ion I won't be able to do a re-cell on it later on. Or maybe when it's gone completely I could rip the innards out and replace with NiMh, but that is a way off yet I trust.
Hopefully this will be a rather more pleasant commute than by bus, which seems to get scummier by the day. Unbelievably last year the underground car park below my place of work installed parking meters for bikes/motorbikes too, however they've yet to be activated after the uproar it caused.
On a final note, for now, I recently subscribed to the electronic edition of A to B: it's a good read.
6th February 2007, 16:25
Welcome to the club, i'm amazed at the restraint you've shown in posting details here of your new purchase before unpacking it first
As for charging both ends you might want to find out what your maximum range is before the battery gives out. If your commute both ways is approaching the max figure then I would probably charge each leg of your commute. If you've plenty of steam left then you have both options!