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    Adding second motor to old Wisper bike?

    If it's like my early Wisper there's likely an unused connector on the controller that you short (or unshort) to de-restrict it.
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    Adding second motor to old Wisper bike?

    Keep us up to date on this please! I've often thought of doing the same to my Mk 0.9 Wisper 905se. Solder the shunt, means opening up the controller and adding some solder to the large bit of wire (the shunt) that the controller uses to work out how much current it is using. If you thicken the...
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    Not another legal debate... but :)

    Well they do have the power of life or death over cyclists. Just a slight movement on the steering wheel and....:(
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    A2B or A2B like bike with Assisted pedalling and Throttle?

    If it's available in an either or option, that PROBABLY means the controller is capable of doing both. So it's probably just a case of adding the missing one in. You could probably get the dealer to do it for you....
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    Torque and Rotation (Cadence) Sensing - Clarification Question

    Sigh..... (Apologies to Messrs Cleese, Corbett & Barker) Cyclist: (Dressed in lycra, SPDs & cycling helmet) I look down on him (indicates Pedelecer), because I'm a proper cyclist and he cheats. Pedelecer: (Dressed in old school shorts & leather helmet) I look up to him (indicates Cyclist)...
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    Emu Electric Bikes

    Front motor I can agree with, but the rest is pretty much standard bike fare. What's wrong with that?
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    Let's keep the throttle!

    Exactly, HE gave up cycling. HE made the assessment. HE made the choice. It wasn't forced upon him. Or should we have a fitness test before you can purchase a bike? The "good" thing about cycling is that it can make you acutely aware of how fragile you are. (Unlike cars where you are cocooned...
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    Let's keep the throttle!

    In my case: 1)No. (I can apply force when I need to it just hurts) 2)Easily, I can do most walking. 3)I can do so, it just hurts. Basically for me, large forces e.g. starting off on a hill, hurt. During flare ups repeated bending hurts, and pedalling will irritate my knees so that they hurt...
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    Let's keep the throttle!

    Indeed that's where the "argument" lies, those who stand by the definition of cycling above, and those (including myself) who believe it should be "stretched" a little to include the 250W pedelec with throttle control. Probably more useful in the long term though is to create an entirely new...
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    Let's keep the throttle!

    I suppose we see an opportunity, we have tasted a device that for some can provide a level of mobility that wasn't so easily possible (& affordable) before. (& without the stigma, limitations & cost of some of the official disabled devices) The review of the legislation offered a possibility to...
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    Will the end of full speed throttles in January 2016 cause a rush to buy.

    More worryingly would be after an accident when the fine toothed comb might come out. (To prove some sort of liability)
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    Will the end of full speed throttles in January 2016 cause a rush to buy.

    Yes this is an interesting question, even for type-approved throttle bikes. With an ordinary bike I can pretty much exchange parts with impunity (so long as they are quality parts), with a type-approved bike will I have to keep to the same manufacturers spec that underwent type approval?
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    Slightly different sort of throttle

    Hmmmm: Fitment: Suitable for most of Electric bike with 7/8"/22mm handlebar. then; 2. Please allow 0.5-1 inch difference due to manual measurement.(1 inch=2.54cm) :rolleyes:o_O
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    Let's keep the throttle!

    Ahh so it's not enshrined in law, only in practical application by the uk DfT guidelines? Well that's something (although much easier for a future transport minister or civil servant to change with the stroke of a pen). We shall have to live with that and hope the L1EA requirements are as...
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    Let's keep the throttle!

    RE: Insurance etc. My apologies I stand corrected (I'll edit my post) thanks!:) RE: Type approval why are throttle bikes called out as requiring type approval and non-throttle bikes not? Or is it that non-throttle bikes also require the same type approval and we are all debating about nothing...
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    Will the end of full speed throttles in January 2016 cause a rush to buy.

    You could also say that it's down to good old fashioned engineering tolerances/over engineering. Technically it's components are capable of more than 25kph, however restrictions are put in place to ensure that the components are not used to their maximum capacity. This provides good performance...
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    Let's keep the throttle!

    Yes I was splitting hairs, but they are important hairs. This is the way politicians kill ideas whilst still maintaining they are providing their full backing for them. All that's required is to make the required type approval so onerous and expensive, and the whole class of bikes is effectively...
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    Let's keep the throttle!

    Well I am if the manufacturers can't (through an ill defined or excessive definition) or won't get type approved (due to cost). And of course as a self builder it's another problem still. (And loathe as I am to mince words, she said that "A vehicle under that limit will be designated as an...
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    Let's keep the throttle!

    That's not how I read that quote. My reading of that quote says that throttle electric bikes (my class B above), will be treated the same as pedal electric bikes (my class A above) as they currently are. To make them type-approved basically kills them, and is not fulfilling that promise. Or am...
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    Let's keep the throttle!

    Let's be clear what we are talking about here. I see the following types of ebike (my own Taxonomy here): A) Pedelecs. Design speed 15mph. Limited power. Motor control by Pedals only. B) Pedelecs. Design speed 15mph. Limited power. Motor control by Pedals OR Throttle. C) E-Moped. Design speed...