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Brexit, for once some facts.

Discussion in 'The Charging Post' started by flecc, May 28, 2016.

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    PeterL

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    Again, not a bad response, but there is a limit to what can prove acceptable to a majority of people. I spend a lot of time in the US, my wife is a US citizen. There is no comparison, the gap between the have's and the have-not's is huge! Gated communities are everywhere. Europe is totally different to the US and the UK even more so. Albeit should the USE ever come into being things might well change. We can be to the EU, as Canada is to the US perhaps?
     
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    "Annually Airbus spends around £4 billion with suppliers in the UK, a significant contribution to the UK aerospace industry, which supports around 110,000 high value, highly skilled jobs. "
     
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    .. Peter you have referred on a few occasions to ..". The majority of people" , without evidence and I have not pulled you up on it.
    What majority do you refer to?
    Is it the miniscule deviation that occured on the referendum?,
    Or is it the whole hearted response of the houses of commons and lords which did in fact vote and did give a huge majority to Brexit, on the , in my opinion , mistaken belief that they could re visit it unilaterally if the terms were not acceptable to them.
    . However that was in a parliament which no longer exists , and the will of the current parliament has not been tested
    So which majority do you refer to? The London one, the Scottish one, the Northern Ireland one, or the Sunderland one?
     
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    T`was the UK one Dan
     
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    Danidl

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    MPs have defied whips before and will again. I view adherence to a whip structure against ones better judgement as moral cowardice. MPs have presumably taken oathes of office, and are in a privileged position, they have and had a duty to honour them.
     
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    Danidl

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    By this I infer the one where there was a miniscule majority at the level of noise? Nobody can infer that that was a will of the people or a meaningful majority.
     
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    PeterL

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    UK one of course. You do sound very similar to Nick Clegg at times and I don't mean to insult you.
     
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    PeterL

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    that must make it a UK company?

    Actually that figure was more likely to be worldwide try these

    https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus

    UK workforce more like
    Broughton, Flintshire, Wales UK 5,031
    Bristol (Filton), England UK 4,642

    Toulouse
    (Toulouse, Colomiers, Blagnac) France 16,992
    Hamburg
    (Finkenwerder, Stade, Buxtehude) Germany 13,420
    Broughton, Flintshire, Wales UK 5,031
    Bristol (Filton), England UK 4,642
    Bremen Germany 3,330
    Madrid (Getafe, Illescas) Spain 2,484
    Saint-Nazaire France 2,387
    Nordenham Germany 2,086
    Nantes France 1,996
    Albert (Méaulte) France 1,288
    Varel Germany 1,191
    Laupheim Germany 1,116
    Cadiz (Puerto Real) Spain 448
    Washington, D.C. (Herndon, Ashburn) USA 422
    Beijing PRC 150
    Wichita USA 320
    Mobile, Alabama USA 150
    Miami (Miami Springs) USA ?
    Seville Spain ?
    Moscow Russia ?
    Tianjin PRC planning
    Harbin PRC 1,000 (opening by end-2010)
    Bangalore, Karnataka India 1800
    Total 56,966+

    (Data as of 31 December 2006)

    Appreciate that you said 'supports' which probably includes the wider workforce not just AirBus, no doubt the same for Germany and France?
     
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    Having just been on the Airbus site

    http://www.aircraft.airbus.com/company/worldwide-presence/airbus-in-uk/

    I'll take that earlier lot back, if I can...

    http://www.aircraft.airbus.com/company/worldwide-presence/airbus-in-uk/
     
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    So you really believe that this miniscule deviation from 50% which a movement of 600,000 out of 36,000,000 voters , and which excluded the 1,200,000 Britons currently living on continental Europe , and who had no opportunity , but a greater likelihood of voting remain, provided a logical reason for this turmoil?
     
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    I have no interest, good bad or otherwise in the personalities or politics of UK politicians so I am neither insulted or impressed by the comparison.
     
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    You are indeed sounding like Nick Clegg. I really do not think that the UK population ever thought that when we joined the EU it was to become a complete integral part of the EU. That was probably the start of the lie?
    There seems to be a habit of this with the INDYRef1 and no doubt INDYRef2 whenever it comes. None of the Exiles where allowed to vote and neither was my wife come to that.
     
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    It's well named for sure.

    Not sure why but I was referring to
    "Having just been on the Airbus site
    Having seen the so called beluga aircraft in the flesh as it were, it is a sight for sore eyes.. I laughed out loud the first time I saw it at Nantes. It looks sort of like an ordinary passenger jet, where someone had pumped lots of compressed air into its belly so that it has expanded like a sausage . It can carry full engines, large sections of fuselage and all sorts of stuff in its belly...
     
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    Frosty? :D
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    The UK Airbus workforce is about 10,000, when you factor in the sub-contractors or companies providing sub assemblies it is that number. The UK has a large aerospace industry, remember the Concorde?
     
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    then you and I are nearly in agreement.
     
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    Paul smith

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    That's dedicated to you good folks..^^^...:)
     
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    It may seem a little odd that 'The Thunderer' should come out with something resembling a criticism of the tory government but I was tickled by the first response to the article.......I think it might be made-up:D

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    Graeme Park Iffint it not got no pitchers in it, then wese Brexiters aint intersted, is we? We get the troof from the Sun and the Daily Mail, don't not need no puffy poncy Times to pull the wool over our eyes.. Ruddy remoaners!!

    Ridiculous? Not at all.....the same verbal diarrhoea has been prevalent recently in this thread from the tory, pro-'Brexit' element, albeit with better spelling.

    Tom
     
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