New Shimano products

[shemozzle999]

E6100 Steps motor upgrade

https://bike.shimano.com/en-EU/product/component/city---trekking-e-bike-e6100-series.html

Ebike specific5 speed hub with various brake options

https://bike.shimano.com/en-EU/product/component/city---trekking-e-bike-e6100-series/SG-C7050-5D.html

 

[Woosh]

definitely high end.
would they be reassuringly expensive too?

 

[Woosh]

Ebike specific5 speed hub with various brake options

https://bike.shimano.com/en-EU/prod...trekking-e-bike-e6100-series/SG-C7050-5D.html

key feature: fully automatic shifting

Just in case you left your brain at home.

 

[shemozzle999]

Auto shifting to maintain maximum motor efficiency and battery range - whats not to like?

Expensive for Europeans

 

[Woosh]

automatic shifting: a solution looking for a problem?
it seems they want to make a bike to be driven instead of ridden.
while we are still talking about banning the twist and go throttle.

 

[flecc]

I've long favoured a wide range 5 speed for e-bikes, so it's good to see a new 5 speed hub. The SRAM P5, tough though it was, had ridiculously slow down shifting.

Just a pity it's only automatic at present but hopefuly we'll get a manual version later to increase sales.
.

 

[grldtnr]

Yes, Flecc, hub gear/disc brake would be a good combo.
But I can't help thinking bikes are supposed to be simple, what's with all these gadgets to solve a problem, the problem wasn't there in the first place?
But it is a case that there for once is something new in cycle design, most things have been thought of before, and I am guessing that auto gear change has been there before.
.....and yes it had ,the Nuvinci hub!

 

[flecc]

But it is a case that there for once is something new in cycle design, most things have been thought of before, and I am guessing that auto gear change has been there before.
.....and yes it had ,the Nuvinci hub!

Actually Shimano beat NuVinci to it. Their first auto shifting gear was a three speed long before the NuVinci launch, used on some utility bikes and highly praised. They later followed with an auto shifting 8 speed hub and more recently auto shifting derailleurs at scary prices.

Another company, Baron Controls markets ProShift. The system is compatible with the Shimano Di2, SRAM eTap, and Campagnolo EPS electronic groupsets, with shifting controlled by a head unit that is connected to the groupset. This head unit then takes your riding data (speed, cadence, heart rate and wattage) to determine your optimum cadence, and then shifts into the appropriate gear.
.

 

[Woosh]

But I can't help thinking bikes are supposed to be simple, what's with all these gadgets to solve a problem, the problem wasn't there in the first place?

The industry sees e-bikes as a luxury item, not a mean of transport. You have parallels: QLED TV with 2000 'nits' instead of just HDTV.
gear shifting has never been an issue before the introduction of the Bosch CD bikes. if you want simple, buy a geared hub bikes.

 

[anotherkiwi]

The industry sees e-bikes as a luxury item, not a mean of transport. You have parallels: QLED TV with 2000 'nits' instead of just HDTV.
gear shifting has never been an issue before the introduction of the Bosch CD bikes. if you want simple, buy a geared hub bikes.

Gear shifting isn't a problem with your GSM!

Just wanted to say...