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well I sincerely hope Nige manages to set it up, UKIP does us all a very great service with its public parade of odd racists and ex glamour models and we could do with more

but then there are multinationals "lobbying" MP's for those, whereas there aren't many kickbacks for MP's or their backers in nursing jobs (if anything I expect agency staff result in more swill, collateral payment for the pigs in Westminster and corporate uk)

and that, ladies and gentlemen, is how we arrived at a brexit vote (in the electorates' minds it had the same gravitas as voting Nadine dories out of the jungle). so is there a way to turn this into a learning experience as opposed to massive, traumatic aversive conditioning?

and that's before the good news of KPMG auditors giving the company the all clear six months ago (as valued at £2 billion) and so massively screwing pension funds and investors. corporate life in UK is almost as ethical as the politics.

that's the spirit! insisting on being right (and that everyone's full of shite and incapable of change) is key to a good brexit debate. contempt is optional (but really helps, I'm not waiting for Weetabix, I'm tapping away one handed from a work urinal)

since publicity, promoting the uk (or some archaic aspects of it) seems their raison d'etre (as they keep reminding us), I think they should be privatised. and not like PFI, properly - I'm sure a few companies would be interested in sponsoring them (imagine the exposure marketing, a few well...

so, essentially a 150 year old version of the kardashians (wish they'd get a YouTube channel and leave the taxpayer alone..)

yes, I don't object to history, traditions or regalia (things I too find interesting). I object to the spending of several hundred million pounds of taxpayer money subsidising a family who could do all they currently do for 10% of this (as, for example, the Dutch royal family does).

i largely agree - one has to feel a sense of palpable dread at imagining her mindset: she lives in a country where citizens die prematurely for lack of health, social care, due to lack of funding but smugly sits on an inherited unused several hundred million pound fortune, take much more from...

to be fair I don't say its wrong for anyone to invest in property - I think, as we all agree, that it is damaging to the economy and wrong in principle. I invest in property myself (when in Rome etc), I can see that - for now - its practically the only hedge against inflation. but it will (more...

I can see where you're coming from, but in the spirit of embracing the yin as well as the yang it's worth bearing in mind the Lancaster may have killed countless children and women in dresden.

Yes, and to a point we're all being manipulated by politicians, like Gordon brown and his tax raid on pension funds, making it less attractive, and ultra low interest rates, and returns on savings, that have more to do with avoiding facing up to a distorted economy than fixing anything. I can...

Strictly fwiw, in the context of this thread you seem like a natural to me (disagreeing with everyone and labelling what they say shite is a central premise here, once you've mastered that, and you're well on your way, it's like cycling, second nature)

Having, mainly accidentally, almost made more from buying a house in London a while back than I earn, I can assure you our distorted, mad property market has - like our economy and its reliance on financial swindling and offshore tax havens - little to do with hard work or progressing through...

It has more to do with propping up property prices and buying middle class "centre ground" votes than helping anyone

But that may be the point, you may be generalising invalidly, when every "scroungers" circumstances are different..

However, in this narrative one is either a scrounger or hard working. I don't think k its that black and white. I work, not very hard, as much as I enjoy. But I like what I do, I don't mind doing it, as much as I do. And barring something like a massive infarct, I can continue to do it as long...

This is a bit of a tangent, but trump is, also, a compulsive pathological liar. The US embassy in London was, for example, sold by the Bush administration, not Obama. And he knew that while stating the opposite. Much as with gove Boris et al, one simply cannot attach any intrinsic value to...

Are you suggesting that by taking offense at trump's racism were overlooking valid substance in what he said (or that brexit wasn't about anti immigration, but for some so far overlooked substantial, valid reason)? My objection is mainly on this occasion to the substance of his anti immigration...

Many African countries have economic growth thats much higher than America's. Trump does not know what he's talking about. If one wants to trade genuine knowledge about life, others for empty stereotypes, arrogant clichés, and other misguided manure trump or Boris is a good bet.