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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Why. The Poles came to Ireland in 2002\.... Seeking legitimate work, and did it, got paid, helped build motorways and houses. They knew what they wanted . A chance to better themselves , and with an expectation of returning to and contributing to the development of their own country. The...
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    The vat rate in the south is also a bit higher I think. We are suffering and will continue to suffer because of the weakness of sterling. As I said previously, many of the Irish firms supplying food to UK chains set up contracts denoted in sterling and at a rate of about 0.78 / 0.82 to the euro...
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    Nothing would please me more than that the ECJ would find against Apple and Ireland and that the 8 billion would be a windfall to the Irish taxpayer. It would make a nice dent in our national debt. The house building in 2005\6 was insane and the classic definition of a bubble. I think it...
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    There is an assertion that a cheat was done. The EU have requested.. (required ) that the potential tax liability be held in escrow until the matter is sorted in court.That has been done. Perhaps you know in advance how the courts will rule? Yes the UK loaned, and the word is loaned Ireland a...
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    Poland is not a minor player, Czech republic was always the power house of quality manufacture in the Iron Curtain days. The key point rather should be how much new infrastructure are these countries gaining, how much new technology are they picking up, how more prosperous are their people...
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    And is exactly what has happened with Ireland, we were once great beneficiaries, used monies to build infrastructure...( Then went wild), but are now net contributors.
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    .. if that was the position of this Mr Clegg, then he agrees with me!, So he must be right! But at every stage in the 40 years from then to now, from EEC to EU, the UK Government had a say and agreed to all they needed to agree to and opted out where they wanted. The EU is as much a...
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    We can agree on one thing.. it's an awful analogy. Perhaps I could extend it...and make it far worser The 28 are in the bar, buying rounds etc, one of the group is boorish, but in a bid to curry favour paid the taxi fare for a few of the others to get there. When the evening does not go to...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I have no interest, good bad or otherwise in the personalities or politics of UK politicians so I am neither insulted or impressed by the comparison.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So you really believe that this miniscule deviation from 50% which a movement of 600,000 out of 36,000,000 voters , and which excluded the 1,200,000 Britons currently living on continental Europe , and who had no opportunity , but a greater likelihood of voting remain, provided a logical...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    By this I infer the one where there was a miniscule majority at the level of noise? Nobody can infer that that was a will of the people or a meaningful majority.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    MPs have defied whips before and will again. I view adherence to a whip structure against ones better judgement as moral cowardice. MPs have presumably taken oathes of office, and are in a privileged position, they have and had a duty to honour them.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    .. Peter you have referred on a few occasions to ..". The majority of people" , without evidence and I have not pulled you up on it. What majority do you refer to? Is it the miniscule deviation that occured on the referendum?, Or is it the whole hearted response of the houses of commons...
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    Oh dear here we go again. Recinding article 50 an act of folly?. Or trying to climb out of a hole instead of digging deeper. There was a lovely phrase in that brilliant drama just ended on BBC Broken..". Guilt is when you know you have done wrong. Shame is when others know. You can live with...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Peter had the will of the people been clearly expressed, it is likely that the amount of angst would have been less. Likewise had the responses by the government been more measured, or indeed even measured , a similar response might have ensued. But it was neither. The majority for leave was at...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No it has not lost its status, it's mind perhaps,but not its status!.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Was he not just actually, doing his job. ? He speaks for parliament, and in your country parliament is supreme
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Peter, in respect of the arguement that ..." We are all in this together so let's make the best of it" Seems on the face of it to be a reasonable plea for tolerance and forebarance. Almost a desire to rekindle the Dunkirk spirit. But unlike that situation, there is no external foe, all the...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    A well argued position. There is an increasing intolerance towards contrary opinion , not only in Brexit, which is a UK situation, but against diversity, abortion discussion...in Ireland, against any form of socialist thinking in the States , etc etc. That it has reached the universities so that...