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Thanks Eddie, The Flyer 500w looks interesting. I'm currently considering the Moustache Saturday 350W 10S. B.

As the OP who asked the question I found both answers very useful. End of debate.

Oops! I'm back as E-S was too technical! Whadda I do now? Stuck in-between forums on the interweb at 2:31, someone PLEASE post something technical quickly!!!

Thats it. I regret to announce that I am now leaving this forum as it's clearly not technical enough. I'll have a nice life on E-S. Goodbye!

Please, please enlighten us themutiny??

And Barclay fails to digest because he's concentrating on being confused.

I'm still plumped on the sofa, pregnant and trying to digest turkey, goose and too much Christmas pud amongst other things. I've seen a Speedict video which shows a Bosch 250W motor outputting 600W and am confused about what all this means? Can some explain to a numpty? Cheers, Fat Barclay.

Agreed. My wife is now very keen, so looks like I'll have to push to max £3200 for 2 bikes.

I'm anticipating the batteries will lose their charge/effectiveness over a defined period.

My head has imploded! Quick, somebody beat me with a stick!

Stork is on the shortlist.

Thanks Eddie, I'm researching the Pansonic rear hubs as we speak. What do you mean by direct drive - crank/rear hub? I looked at Cube which looked nice but with very little after sales UK support so a no no for. Green Mover looked interesting also and I agree too risky at this time.

I'm beginning to think in this direction.

A very fine choice. Having the flexibility to go off road is clearly a bonus. Maybe the ideal bike for me would be a 29er with racks/mudgaurds, high-power and slick tyres with the option to convert and a Rohloff hub? Does it exist?!? Am I being a unrealistic. The headache of choice is certainly...

Nice suggestions Hugh. The Pro Connect is an S-Pedelec. Legalities aside perhaps I should be considering these too?

Certainly sounds fast but I want a bike that we last me 4-5 years (battery replacement excluded of course) so quality is important to me.

So could what I'm looking for be a Rohloff equipped high battery capacity bike?

Thanks everyone for your responses! I wasn't expecting so much so soon! Perhaps I should narrow down my criteria: -Fast commuter bike -Lights, rear rack ready to go -Front suspension ideally -Long range and plenty of power -Rear hub or crank drive So far I have these on my shortlist: Grace...

Thanks Richard, I must say I was quite impressed with the Rose range and website; It's a new brand to me but appears to be very Khalkoffesque?

Absolutely, I'm looking at 2013 models only as the batteries appear to be much better.