Help! Advice on a readybuilt or bike to convert for a heavy person (20 stone)?

glerwill

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Hi, I have a friend who is currently limited on work choices by the buses he can use. He is willing to consider an ebike but is challenged by his weight, I appreciate that the uk 250 w limit means some hills would be difficult/impossible.

So - assumptions.

Must be robust, step thru design to accommodate weight.
Daily 10 mile round trip max between charges, on mostly flat route.
It's a work commute bike - cost matters, secondhand might be ok, but qualifying for ride to work scheme or other schemes useful.

Thanks for any suggestions
 

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Hi, I have a friend who is currently limited on work choices by the buses he can use. He is willing to consider an ebike but is challenged by his weight, I appreciate that the uk 250 w limit means some hills would be difficult/impossible.

So - assumptions.

Must be robust, step thru design to accommodate weight.
Daily 10 mile round trip max between charges, on mostly flat route.
It's a work commute bike - cost matters, secondhand might be ok, but qualifying for ride to work scheme or other schemes useful.

Thanks for any suggestions
Contact this e-transport seller https://eucsale.com/ They will help choose the best option for your friend. They sell all over Europe!
 

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This 55Nm mid-drive e-bike carries 20-stone easily (I have one, and did weigh more than that) although it's not a step-through: 20mph on the flat, and with the right cadence and gear choice, up 15% hills too with relative ease. 11Ah/400w battery gives 30-mile-plus range easily with a mix of power support carrying that weight. Quality 10-speed Shimano Deore 11/42 gearing and hydraulic brakes. It's a peach at this money (£500ish if it's still for sale, with just 200 miles on the clock). You'd likely need to add mudguards. lights, and maybe a rear rack for commuting.
 

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Hi, I have a friend who is currently limited on work choices by the buses he can use. He is willing to consider an ebike but is challenged by his weight, I appreciate that the uk 250 w limit means some hills would be difficult/impossible.

So - assumptions.

Must be robust, step thru design to accommodate weight.
Daily 10 mile round trip max between charges, on mostly flat route.
It's a work commute bike - cost matters, secondhand might be ok, but qualifying for ride to work scheme or other schemes useful.

Thanks for any suggestions
For 10 miles flat riding any decent ebike will do the job. For CS and warranty repairs the favoured forum sellers are most reliable Woosh, Wisper & Juicy also Decathlon appear to good as well.
 

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Of which just looking at the options available none are suitable at all.
No one forbids consulting with specialists. If they do not have the right one, they will tell you which one is better to choose based on the set requirements. And if they have one, they will deliver it to glerwill.
 

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Why Satanta rather than BigBear (as suggested on your site for over 18 stone)?
Up to 18st. Over 18st: we recommend the Big Bear LS.
We are out of Big Bear LS and have Santana3 coming in next week.
we are so busy this year, can't build Big Bear LS until next year.
September: Camino, Santana3
October: Rambla and Rambletta
November: Big Bear - perhaps returning to normal in December.
 
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Edward Elizabeth

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I'm a feeble lightweight at 19 stone (I'm 6'5") and have never had a problem with any bike, electric or regular. Normal ebikes work just fine for me - hills no problem at all. Most are somewhere in the 120-140kg payload range, so should be fine.

Might I ask, is there any reason for desiring a step thru frame?
 

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For 10 miles flat riding any decent ebike will do the job. For CS and warranty repairs the favoured forum sellers are most reliable Woosh, Wisper & Juicy also Decathlon appear to good as well.
Decathlon have low weight limits, 100kg on most models and that is total load. They also have had quite a few recalls for frame failures. I guess it depends on model but with many brands offering a full 160kg total load capacity those would be better options in my opinion.
 

Bonzo Banana

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I'm a feeble lightweight at 19 stone (I'm 6'5") and have never had a problem with any bike, electric or regular. Normal ebikes work just fine for me - hills no problem at all. Most are somewhere in the 120-140kg payload range, so should be fine.

Might I ask, is there any reason for desiring a step thru frame?
You are inside normal weight limits for many brands. 136kg/300lbs are the rider weight limits for the most generous brands. Some brands are limited to 120kg total load and a few below this at around 100kg plus some folding bikes go lower again. Increasing the fatigue rate of the frame and forks means the lifespan is reduced but should still get many years out of the frame and forks. When you start going over the stated certified weight limits you can massively reduce lifespan and make an early failure much more likely.

Once you get beyond stated weight limits then you really have to start thinking about frame material and the components you are using. Steel is always a great material for frames and forks as typically will give early warning of failure plus many steel frames and forks are overbuilt. Finally steel does have greater resistance to fatigue although when overloaded perhaps the endurance limit of the material is exceeded.

Like you I don't really think of 19-20 stone as a problem for many brands.

I was going to say step-thru and folding bike frames are typically weaker but unless you have access to the certification test report you can only guess at the real strength. Some step thru frames are very over-built.

Most US brands have high weight limits as does Halfords and Giant bikes, typical European brands are less but I think the Spanish brand 'BH' actually has high weight limits. Go Outdoors, Calibre bikes etc are more typically European with a 120kg total load limit. Some brands also confuse the issue by only stating rider weight limits and not total load.
 

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Decathlon have low weight limits, 100kg on most models and that is total load. They also have had quite a few recalls for frame failures. I guess it depends on model but with many brands offering a full 160kg total load capacity those would be better options in my opinion.
I can't comment on their bikes weight loading but still would say their 365 day no quibble money back guarantee is great selling point.
 

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No one forbids consulting with specialists. If they do not have the right one, they will tell you which one is better to choose based on the set requirements. And if they have one, they will deliver it to glerwill.
Do you work for them , or have any other connection with them?
 
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Bonzo Banana

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I can't comment on their bikes weight loading but still would say their 365 day no quibble money back guarantee is great selling point.
I take your point but aluminium frames and forks always get weaker with time until they are so weak they fail. Even overloaded unless extremely overloaded you will likely get more than 1 year out of the frame and forks and if the frame or fails after that you are pretty much in manufacturing defect territory which is when a weld fails for example not fair wear and tear i.e. fatigue. There is also the issue that such failures can be life threatening.

When btwin had their rockrider recall which was limited to larger sizes some of them were failing after only a couple of weeks.


I just don't think they are the ideal bikes for heavier riders even though some of their bikes are superb value. The thing is the more comfortable and flexy the frame the higher the fatigue rate with aluminium. So you can make a cheap comfortable frame but it may not be the most enduring. Dare I say Halfords frames are a bit in the opposite direction, overly strong and heavy with less flexing hence why they have a 160kg total load limit not 100kg but that is a good option for heavier riders, touring, couriers etc. It wouldn't surprise me if typically Halfords have about 1/2kg of extra weight than Decathlon for their typical bikes and that would be in the frame, forks and extra spokes in the wheels.