Our 2016 Kalkhoff Agattu has what is effectively a throttle but defined as a walk aid.Throttles are allowed in all Eu countries under EN 15194. They can work independently up to 6km/h. Even Bosch bikes have one. They're allowed to work beyond that up to 25km/h as long as power stops when you stop pedalling, though they don't specify how soon it must cut the power after the pedalling stops and no bike cuts power instantaneously with or without a throttle.
That's our Eddieo, who got banned from the forum along with his alta ego Indalo. We heard that he died a few years ago.Police forces in Spain stopping ebikes (2014), demanding to see certificates of conformity? Hope this never happens here in the UK:
A public service announcement: Spanish police have started fining e bike riders heavily if they do not have a COC (certificate of conformity fromforums.outandaboutlive.co.uk
That's what I've done, but the throttle is still on the bike - to be reconnected in emergencies. I might even add a case around the disconnected connectors with a glass front to break, in case of. I would carry the throttle in my bike toolkit instead, bu the prospect of pulling everything off the handlebars with all the fiddly screws in the dark, after an accident (if the bike is still rollable), is too much.And if it worries you, you can always disconnect your throttle from the controller.
Sounds like a good approach. I hadn't thought of a possible issues from too many people driving mobility scooters to (or worse, from) the pub.Visited Spain 3 or 4 times a year pre covid-19. Last time being February 2020. A large proportion of residents on the caravan sites ride electric bikes with no issues. Several City/Town councils have banned Mobility Scooter's for the under 55's unless they could produce medical evidence the use was justified. This ban was introduce to stop the unnecessary/abuse (read riding to the pub) by able bodied person. Also the police were very strict regarding electric scooter use.
Sorry, that's not what I meant.If I kill or injure someone, all of the above, I expect...
It's for legal reasons. Nothing in the pedelec usage regulations permits any throttle. However the pedestrian controlled vehicle regulations permits someone walking to control a powered vehicle at up to 4 mph (6kph in the EU), subject to the power cutting out if they let go. Hence the thumb throttle.Our 2016 Kalkhoff Agattu has what is effectively a throttle but defined as a walk aid.
The handbook, multi languages, describes this only as that, with a warning it must not be used when ridden.
Is this in the forum's opinion a warning for EU legal or simply technical reasons, as I struggle to see the technical issue it might have? It does work when ridden!
If by "They" you mean the cops - who knows? If by "They", you mean we/me - if I've increased top speed beyond 15.5mph in firmware, through a firmware overwrite, then yes it's illegal. The BBS01b firmware top speed, can be set up in firmware to be limited in firmware, despite the display setting, or it can be set in firmware to be controlled by the display. The whole range of options, both legal and not, are pretty comprehensive - here's my setup - I didn't change anything at the throttle, because I initially didn't install it on the bike.If the only way they can make it go over 15.5mph (with assistance) is by connecting a laptop to it then that doesn't sound like a legal problem. Or like something that would ever happen.
Sure. But that's not what you said.if I've increased top speed beyond 15.5mph in firmware, through a firmware overwrite, then yes it's illegal.