Best place to buy Tongxin motors ?

cirrus18

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Best place to buy Tongxin motors ?

Anybody know where I can buy one of these motors inexpensively? I really want a motor with very low drag freewheeling capabilities and from what I have been reading this seems to be the one to go for rather than the Bafang.
 

Xcytronex

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I will have a Tongxin 260 rpm in a 700 wheel and controller [ordered from the Electric Wheel company in April !] within the next 2 weeks.If you are interested cirrus please p.m. me. I was going to fit to a Torq 1 -unfortunately real life has suddenly intervened.
 

cirrus18

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I will have a Tongxin 260 rpm in a 700 wheel and controller [ordered from the Electric Wheel company in April !] within the next 2 weeks.If you are interested cirrus please p.m. me. I was going to fit to a Torq 1 -unfortunately real life has suddenly intervened.
Many thanks for your offer and would have been interested except that I want to build a trailer so, I need a small wheel.
 

cirrus18

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No problem--you could try Kick me to nano or phone 0845 0942735 --their Tongxins are just arriving and they may have a surplus to any order requirements
I have already looked at their site and their prices are a joke and a poor one at that and to my mind a totally unrealistic rip-off. This is what they say.
"What is included?

The standard nanoTM kit costs £649!!!!, including VAT and comprises:
6Ah High Capacity Extra-long life Lithium Polymer battery giving a 40 mile range???"
# Battery charger
# Controller, used to feed the required amount of power, as determined by the setting of the twist grip, from the battery to the motor.
# All necessary additional wiring.
# Twist grip throttle (and matching handlebar grip for other side).
# Twin safety brake levers - immediately cuts power to the motor when either brake is applied.

Compare these prices from the German supplier----.Google Translate

Tongxin front engine with 80mm Pave 36V/180Watt
Complete kit with a standard controller, electric brake levers, pedal sensor and Daumengashebel. The engine features the latest sensorless technique.
160,00 Euro incl. Shipping.

and buying a much larger capacity battery direct from China and you can see why I have been asking for an alternative supplier rather than this English one.

Thank goodness for the information from you guys out there otherwise we would really be paying through the nose. Thank you
 
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flecc

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That range was from the A to B nano-Brompton test, which as some of us have pointed out was in fact the strong cyclist's range range since he averaged well over the motor top speed in a fairly flat area, the motor only working part time.

The Electric Wheel Company are really nano supply and fit rather than kit suppliers, and with the same person involved have the same high prices, and are apparently just as bad at communications as the former nanomotor.co.uk setup.
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Xcytronex

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Yes it does seem expensive-however factoring out the battery and fitting costs -the laced motor and controller for the DIYer are probably fairly cheap.Unfortunately I can't remember the cost of these 2 items [ordered in April !!!]but will let you know next week when I attempt to finalize payment.The Germans are and always have been very efficient -their postal system is also superb --that appears to be an excllent price on the Tongxin setup you have sourced.
 

jerrysimon

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I am slightly confused (nothing new), but do you fit these hub motors from that German site into your existing wheel ?

Don't the wheels have to be stronger like double rimmed or something ?

Regards

Jerry
 
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daniel.weck

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I will have a Tongxin 260 rpm in a 700 wheel and controller [ordered from the Electric Wheel company in April !] within the next 2 weeks.If you are interested cirrus please p.m. me. I was going to fit to a Torq 1 -unfortunately real life has suddenly intervened.
260 RPM for a 700c wheel !! :eek: You like speed don't you ? :rolleyes:
 

flecc

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I am slightly confused (nothing new), but do you fit these hub motors from that German site into your existing wheel ?

Don't the wheels have to be stronger like double rimmed or something ?

Regards

Jerry
No, just normal rims Jerry. Often heavier gauge spokes are used in the build, 13 gauge rather than 14 gauge for example. It's usual to build into a new rim rather than one that has already had some wear from brake pads and the like, but that's just commonsense.
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daniel.weck

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The Electric Wheel Company are really nano supply and fit rather than kit suppliers, and with the same person involved have the same high prices, and are apparently just as bad at communications as the former nanomotor.co.uk setup.
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I don't like to bash on small businesses, but I think it's fair to say that their communication standard is well below average, compared to what we are used to with the likes of Wisper, etc. It's a shame, because I really wanted to believe in this new phase of the Nano business venture. :confused:

To start with, I was really willing to spare 750 GBP for the Nano kit, but gradually as I was exchanging emails with their sales department I was loosing faith. My technical queries were not answered fast enough (in my opinion) and the replies lacked in courteous + professional + proactive customer care attitude. In the meantime I was engaged in discussions with other motor kit suppliers who were displaying real interest for my custom (quite a contrast). So I decided to go the DIY route instead ! :p

I just think it's a shame because they are loosing sales based simply on bad communication....I'm sure their kit is great otherwise ! :(

Anyway, I wish them all the best, owning a business is not easy :)
 

daniel.weck

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Thank goodness for the information from you guys out there otherwise we would really be paying through the nose. Thank you
You're welcome, it's always good to share tips :) I told Frank I would bring him more customers from the UK...let's hope he has enough motors in stocks :D
 

daniel.weck

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No, just normal rims Jerry. Often heavier gauge spokes are used in the build, 13 gauge rather than 14 gauge for example. It's usual to build into a new rim rather than one that has already had some wear from brake pads and the like, but that's just commonsense.
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I'm probably going to hire the services of a professional wheel builder for my main bike (a Brompton, 16" wheels), but I will give a try myself for my second DIY e-bike. Where can I purchase spokes of the required length ? (by the way, I know about the Sheldon Brown resource, all the technical details are there :) )
 

flecc

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Here you are Daniel, St Johns Street Cycles have many types including the difficult to get short lengths, British made too for a change. I've used those myself with complete success:

Spokes at SJS
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cirrus18

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Yes it does seem expensive-however factoring out the battery and fitting costs -the laced motor and controller for the DIYer are probably fairly cheap.Unfortunately I can't remember the cost of these 2 items [ordered in April !!!]but will let you know next week when I attempt to finalize payment.The Germans are and always have been very efficient -their postal system is also superb --that appears to be an excllent price on the Tongxin setup you have sourced.
Not unless you are made of money I would be inclined to cancel your order, you ordered it in April for crying out loud, especially if you paid by credit card when it would be fairly easy to do so, and buy from Germany.
This British company is just taking the mick with these prices and and lack of service.
I am all in favour of supporting good UK companies but then they have to be fair to their customers and not just take them for a ride with exorbitant markups.
 

Xcytronex

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Yes the German source is going to be cheaper--my point was that The Electric Wheel kit includes expensive battery technology and complete fitting - probably around £400 worth.Even including a £400 mountain bike it would still be cheaper than a Cytronex