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I also used to run but cannot now as I have to manage a chronic full thickness tear to the medial meniscus in my right knee.
While not encouraging you to get surgery for your knee: I don't know much about this stuff, but isn't that sort of repair done using keyhole surgery these days? It'd take ages to recover though, tendons take ages to heal. An injury somewhere inside my right knee I got at the end of the 80s still bugs me (it had a violent disagreement with a BMW bonnet while the rest of me flew over the car, upon which my bike left dents). The knee swelled up, but they they couldn't find a tear using scans. Years later, a physio told me while administering ultrasonic shocks to my knee that at some point, having failed healing, the body gives up and the injury becomes chronic (hence the ultrasonic shocks). Cycling became less painful after regular slow jogging (slower than fast walking and higher impact, but not the higher impact of normal jogging)... so for me at least, slow jogging has improved matters, my theory is slow jogging delivering shocks prompted the immune system to attempt repair again - but that's my experience and non-medical theory about my knee. After about two years of slow jogging, I don't experience knee pain cycling.
 

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While not encouraging you to get surgery for your knee: I don't know much about this stuff, but isn't that sort of repair done using keyhole surgery these days?
My recent patella tendon repair (including strengthening by stealing a bit of hamstring) most certainly wasn't keyhole surgery (unless one of those medieval keys).
 

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How long have they said recovery will take? When can you resume cycling?


My recent patella tendon repair (including strengthening by stealing a bit of hamstring) most certainly wasn't keyhole surgery (unless one of those medieval keys).
If the scar looks like this, must have been a sharp one.


 

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Mine looks a bit like that, except that it starts a little above the knee and doesn't extend so far down.

I forgot to ask about cycling explicitly when I saw the doctor just over a week ago; about 2 months after the op, which was just over a week after the injury. I expect to start (electric) cycling once I have sufficient flexion. I'm hoping another month or even a bit less if I'm lucky. I missed out on the early physio due to an admin error at the hospital.

We've got a portable bike exerciser, which I'm using for flexibility, but it only has 100mm cranks. We got it when my wife broke her knee cap just over a couple of years ago. One good feature was that with the flexibility of our Roomster we could put the back seat right back and the front seat right forward and she could sit in the back and pedal away, which was really helpful on long journeys. We didn't manage to harness the power to drive the car.
 

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I'm hoping another month or even a bit less if I'm lucky.
My knee felt if good shape today so I gave it a go. A teeter round the block then a slow flattish 3 mile trip on very quiet roads/cycle path. I did take off the left (bad knee side) half toe clip. It looks as if my excuse for not doing the local shopping has gone away.
 

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We didn't manage to harness the power to drive the car.
Was the exerciser's pedal assist system powered by the car?


My knee felt if good shape today so I gave it a go. A teeter round the block then a slow flattish 3 mile trip on very quiet roads/cycle path. I did take off the left (bad knee side) half toe clip. It looks as if my excuse for not doing the local shopping has gone away.
Do you have a Bosched Motus? I can't recall. Is there a cadence sensor option on your motor? This might be a good time to convert a bike using a BBS01B kit, to reduce knee pain and further strain while healing, and it'll take ages to heal. I can suggest firmware parameter tweaks for zero effort and minimal pedalling. The Bafang BBS01B can be programmed to be very easy on the knees, in my experience.
 
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Was the exerciser's pedal assist system powered by the car?
Very basic exerciser, no power needed. We used it just to give a chance to keep the knee moving/flexing. It does have an option for friction resistance, but we never tried that. Reviews indicate it doesn't work well.

Do you have a Bosched Motus? I can't recall. Is there a cadence sensor option on your motor? This might be a good time to convert a bike using a BBS01B kit, to reduce knee pain and further strain while healing, and it'll take ages to heal. I can suggest firmware parameter tweaks for zero effort and minimal pedalling. The Bafang BBS01B can be programmed to be extremely easy on the knees, in my experience.
Yes, Bosched Motus. I used it on quite high assist level as soon as I hit a hill. A small amount of knee effort is good for healing for me at the moment; that obviously depends very much on the exact injury.

When the battery dies I might consider conversion, though I suspect it would be very difficult as the whole bottom bracket arrangement on the frame is very much designed around the Bosch motor. I've been surprised that the Chinese haven't produced a fitting kit to help with something like that.

No cadence sensor option. I've always thought it odd that torque sensor bikes don't have a top level of assist that relies on pedal motion (for ghost pedalling) or minimal torque (for easy hill starts) and gives full power, rather than just having higher torque multiplication.
 

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If your Motus causes problems for your recovery, you could convert an old bike? My BBS01B is pretty much a moped without a throttle: Pedal a bit on lowest gear if necessary (hill starts) and it shoots off to 25km/h (18A controller limit, can be 20A, [20" wheels]). I've set mine for fast decrease of power when pedalling stops, but you could do the opposite for most minimal pedalling, and stop motor power using the ebrakes; let the motor do the work. @Woosh has said the law doesn't apply to throttles on conversions:

https://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/build-spec-by-committee-might-that-include-you.45773/page-3#post-688195

@Woosh Kerching my commission!
 
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Sunny Cold Day Cross Country Leisure Ride

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Just about managed to fit in a bike ride around my chores. I set off in the afternoon very aware that the sun was due to set at 16:03 and I wanted to get back in time to bring in the bed sheets that I hoped might dry on a rare sunny winter day.

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It was nice to get out in the fresh cold air and enjoy the lovely almost completely off road ride to Haslemere railway station to get the train back to Godalming.

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Probably the last outing for my Schwalbe Hans Dampf gravity 2.35 tyre, run tubeless that was fitted on the 14th of October 2021. I plan to put another one on next week. Its been a very good tyre. Works really well off road and surprisingly well on road and tough as tough can be with no punctures I was aware of.

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I used 40% of my battery riding the 11.4 mile route, which has a lot of climbing.
By the time I reached home I had ridden 12.9 miles. I used 9% of my battery getting the 1.5 miles home from the Station requiring me to climb out of the valley and up a steep hill. I used higher assist to power up the hill home.
 

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When the battery dies I might consider conversion, though I suspect it would be very difficult as the whole bottom bracket arrangement on the frame is very much designed around the Bosch motor. I've been surprised that the Chinese haven't produced a fitting kit to help with something like that.
Conversion to another mid-motor (because of part linking)? Bosch may use just 1 or 2 mounting styles and maybe they're common to multiple brands to keep frame cost down. @Woosh toyed with the idea of producing a BB adapter (outcome?). If a Bafang wouldn't fit I'd switch to a rear hub. The Agattu is similar to a Motus and too comfortable to scrap.
 
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peter was thinking about making some up but doubt he has had time but it really depends on the frame geometry and esp the chain line.

plus it might look crap.


there was a guy on there that made one for my bike but was around 100 euro from Italy
 
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