If your wife is happy with the basic setup on her bike, why not swap the controller/LCD3 to your kit when it comes and when you had a play/ride with the Lishui, just remember to change the wheel size settings, then you can gauge for yourself which one suits your ride style.my wifes bike
Thank you will try the lcd3 and lishui and controller setups on both bikesIf your wife is happy with the basic setup on her bike, why not swap the controller/LCD3 to your kit when it comes and when you had a play/ride with the Lishui, just remember to change the wheel size settings, then you can gauge for yourself which one suits your ride style.
For me changing the "handle bar startup" was integral for throttle setup and for "save last PAS function" were by the last PAS mode (KTLCD3) you switch the bike off, appears set when you next switch it back on, ie PAS 5 switch off ,switch on PAS 5 I think that is default for KTLCD3.
Let us know how the Lishui setup is from a default stand point.
Woosh might be able to off up some advice, hes a really solid all round stand up guy, drop em an email.
, yes noticed that my wifes setup uses less battery for the same trip, though it is not scientific but more or less as she uses PAS more, and I pedal more(not using motor) and she still uses less battery so in my personal opinion I think the KT controllers are more frugal in battery use than the lishui, probably better optimised???The issue with the speed controllers is you don't get any current control at all as they give max in all PAS levels and less range.
Would be interested in that chartFor info, speed cutoff on the Lishui controller varies depending on battery charge, I tested using the throttle while the rear wheel was suspended from the ceiling. Results below.
Assist level - km/h range (low charge 35.3v - high charge 41.6v)
#1 14-17 km/h
I also found a chart showing the levels of assist but the figures don't quite match what I'm seeing.
As requested, I originally found it https://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/lishui-bluetooth-controller-programming-the-easy-way.24210/#post-306086Would be interested in that chart
Mine feels the same. It makes no sense, the freewheel works fine and should make drag impossible.I particularly dont like when pedalling in PAS 2 at the max speed in PAS 2 and change down to PAS 1 you can actually hear and feel the controller/motor combo slow you down, your experience of this?
Hi , Yes apparently the harness between the controller and LCD is different.Some thoughts after my first 500km using a Lishui controller (supplied as part of a 350W kit by Yose), as it makes sense to keep all Lishui / KT comparisons in one place.
There's no need for a key to turn the bike on, anyone can use the on/off button when the bike is parked. Not ideal.
Once turned on, the throttle is always live (no need to pedal first), is there a way to set this to "pedal first to activate throttle" (same as p4 setting on KT controller)?
The Lishui controller is speed controlled, is there a way to change this to current controlled?
This is the main issue I have with this kit, I am having to use assist level5 everywhere as my preferred levels2/3 cut out below my normal cruising speeds. All suggestions welcome !
For background see posts #10 #11 at https://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/gtech-e-scent-mtb-motor-issues.36950/ and/or the p3 setting on KT controller.
Does anyone know if the Yose wiring harness are different between KT and Lishui kits (I know the display & controller have to be compatible, can I just remove my Lishui display & controller and replace them with KT parts?)
Summary from the manual for future reference :
Quick press on/off for display backlight.
Quick press SET to loop though trip/odo/time (& "range to go" optional).
Hold DOWN for 6kmh walk assist.
Hold SET + UP to turn USB charging on/off (what is this?)
Menu 1 (hold SET key for 2 seconds to access) = trip distance (press down to reset) - speed limit (10-40 km/h) - wheel diameter (16-28 ins) - kmh or mph.
Menu 2 (at menu 1, hold SET and DOWN for 10+ seconds) = speed sensor selection - direction of pas - pas sensitivity - throttle level enabled ( max or controlled by assist level) - throttle enabled (6kmh limit) - slow start up setting (1-3) - max current setting (default 12A).
Undocumented - from the final screen in menu2 it is possible to reset the odo to zero (I found out by accident !)