NiCd to NiMh?

Tintaglia

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May 23, 2007
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Nr. Newquay, Cornwall
Thank you all for your help with our Lafree motor problem. Now on to our other bike!!

This is a 5/6 year old Eco Ped which is an import from Austria with a front hub 36v Schachner motor. It has a NiCd battery pack with 30 1.2v 500mah cells which fits in the rear rack using a jack socket for connection.



This battery appears to need replacement. It only has a range of 2-3 miles (up hills) and power is substantially reduced. We can buy a new identical spec battery for about £200 but were wondering whether we should take to opportunity to upgrade it to NiMh, if this is possible. Obviously we would need a new charger as well, but would this affect any other components on the bike, such as the motor or controller?

We have also read some articles about resurrecting NiCd batteries by "zapping" them, but this sounds like a potentially dangerous pastime - does anyone know any more about the procedure? The battery reads 37.5V when newly charged which drops after a day's rest or some use to about 35.7V - does this indicate that the cells are all taking a charge, but perhaps not holding it?

The motor is quite whiny as well despite being re-packed with grease, so another alternative may be to buy up a damaged/unwanted 36v bike and plunder the bits. To buy new parts would be way beyond the value of the bike itself, but in the interest of being "green" (and mean!) we would like to preserve it if we can.
 

flecc

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Oct 25, 2006
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Any 36 volt NiMh pack will be suitable Tintaglia, the eZee 36 volt 9 Ah one being £170, or £230 with charger. Here's the link to that page.

Resuscitating Ni-Cads is possible but potentially dangerous. One firm with expertise in doing this with the Heinzmann Ni-Cads is Kinetics, who used to charge £50 for the service. I doubt if it's really worth it though with your battery as the cells aren't holding the charge well and have greatly increased internal resistance. With a new battery you'll see markedly better performance.
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flecc

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P.S. You wouldn't be able to fit the cells from the eZee battery in your pack casing as they are in a different formation.

I don't know of anyone making NiMh packs in that four wide formation now.
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Ian

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Apr 1, 2007
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Assuming the cells are D size it should be possible to use the cells from 2 powacycle batteries, you would need to be competent with a soldering iron and aware of the safety aspects before attempting this this though. (Which I suspect you probably are :) ). Alternatively suppliers such as RS components stock a wide range of tagged cells for building battery packs, including NiCads as originally fitted.
 

Baboonking

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Nov 4, 2006
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Hi there Tintaglia,

Your pack might still have some life in it yet. My experience of nicad is that they can last a very long time but are sometimes prone to failure. Such as cell reversal or sudden increased self discharge. It could be you have 1 or 2 bad cellls in a good pack. If your interested and enjoy this kind of thing. then check the individual cells with a volt meter ito measure the voltage of each cell, now, after charge, and then after discharge.

If one shows up as being much much below the others then mark it and Report your findings back here.