Sales figures

Jimod

Esteemed Pedelecer
Aug 9, 2010
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Jimod -
I sold 999998. The double glazing company hasn't rung yet.
Could do with a new window or two. Here's hoping.
Hatti
Ironically, I need 2 new windows myself. Luckily I have a tame joiner who's going to attend to it for me. :) I'll persuade him to buy an ebike though. ;)
 
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RobF

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Sep 22, 2012
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I don't see why. Car statistics are freely available.
The car stats you see are registrations which is why they are freely available - the DVLA is prepared to give the numbers.

Registrations are not quite the same as sales.

If a manufacturer registers a car to itself, the car is not sold as the public would understand the term, but it does appear in the figures.

Ebikes are not registered, and quite reasonably, there is nothing to compel a brand to release figures.
 

Woosh

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May 19, 2012
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The car stats you see are registrations which is why they are freely available - the DVLA is prepared to give the numbers.

Registrations are not quite the same as sales.

If a manufacturer registers a car to itself, the car is not sold as the public would understand the term, but it does appear in the figures.

Ebikes are not registered, and quite reasonably, there is nothing to compel a brand to release figures.

You are right, RobF.
Actually, does anyone have a very accurate figure for annual E bike sales in the UK?
I certainly don't know for sure. Some estimates have been as low as 15K for 2013 and some for 35K. What are they based on I wonder? Time to google up lots of dull facts and figures I guess.
The DTI sometimes sends demands for statistics of sales to companies and then presumably can file a report stating how much of 'such and such' was sold in a specific time frame - but I've never had any such demand.
I am thinking it is very roughly 20 - 25K for new and 5K second hand but I may be way out. What do you clever bods out there reckon?
 

Jonah

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Aug 23, 2010
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EX38
I've seen a figure of 20,000 for 2012. This is what I usually quote.
 

Blew it

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Jun 8, 2008
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It depends on how any particular brand is marketed. Brands sold from a single outlet can legitimately claim that every machine sold is actually in use. Not so with brands supplied through dealer networks. Brands marketed in such a way can claim to have 'sold' XXX amount of machines, the reality being those machines are demonstrators sitting in a showroom....and some of them have been doing so for several years in some cases.

Ideally, these machines should be disposed of at regular intervals or following an upgrade in the specification of any particular model. Many retailers practise this prefered business model, many do not. In my travels, I have seen some ancient and obsolete models still bearing the same ticket-price as they did when first introduced.

There is a huge difference between "SOLD" and "IN USE" ;)
 

flecc

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Oct 25, 2006
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For new e-bikes, from research done by A to B magazine some while ago and adding scraps of information and year by year trends, about 20,000 including all types of online dross on ebay etc was probably a rough annual total for the UK in the 2007 to 2010 period.

Since then the indications point to them climbing and so are likely to be in the 25,000 to 30,000 region now. With such methods the error could be quite large, but probably not higher than 5,000.
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