schwalbe...Which tyre

[eddieo]

I had the marathon plus on my last bike but my new bike has no suspension Soooooo thinking of a more comfy tyre, is this a good idea or not?

schwalbe big apple or stick with marathon plus? I have a feeling I will be told to stick with marathon plus just looking for advice. but at the end of the day puncture resistance more important.

 

[flecc]

The Big Apples are wonderfully comfortable and members who have them have reported very low puncture incidence, but obviously they cannot compare for puncture resistance with the Marathon Plus.

You need to make sure there's enough room for the Big Apples within mudguards, forks etc too, they are quite bulky.
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[eddieo]

Thanks Tony, I think I will stick with the M plus terrified of a rear puncture more then anything

would you mind reminding me what size I need plse? I guess the same for 705 & 905.....

 

[flecc]

1.75" for the 26" wheel size in this road tread Eddie, but see further down:

They do a 2" as well but apparently only in this trekking/touring tread which I've never tried. Could be good in the snow, as well as on normal roads, but 270 grams heavier:

AllTerrain Cycles have both:

1.75" on this link

2" on this link
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[bode]

After 3 punctures in a year with my Marathon Pluses, I have invested a very small amount (£4.97 including £3.50 postage) for 3 Sidewinder inner tubes from SJS Cycles (though they actually turned out to be branded Halfords when they arrived). Sidewinder Easy Fit Inner tube 16 & 20 Inch Wheels

As has been discussed in this forum, they are non-circular (i.e. sausage-shaped), and therefore lend themselves to lightning-quick roadside tube replacements, with no need to remove front or back wheel. You would of course have to either cut the damaged tube to remove it or (my preferred option) temporarily fix it out of harm's way with a couple of cable ties.

Whether or no they prove to be any good as permanent replacements (there have been comments that they may not be as balanced as a conventional tube), they should certainly be ideal to get me home, where a more leisurely repair can be done.

 

[alex_h]

Eddie,

big apples are made in either 2.00 or 2.35. the second one is a baloon n felling like on the sofa but won't fit with mudguards so you better off by getting 2 inch ones.

Puncture wise as Tony said they doprovide good protection,. They have e kevlar guard inside to must be lucky to get puncture and cut it through.

hope that helps

 

[alex_h]

and the Marathon Plus 2.00 is very rigid and won't work as a suspension cos teh side walls are thoo thick unless u rid ewith 20psi

 

[eddieo]

1.75" for the 26" wheel size in this road tread Eddie, but see further down:

They do a 2" as well but apparently only in this trekking/touring tread which I've never tried. Could be good in the snow, as well as on normal roads, but 270 grams heavier:

AllTerrain Cycles have both:

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Do you think the 2 inch all terrain will be a little more comfortable then the M plus? but as resistant to punctures?

 

[flecc]

Do you think the 2 inch all terrain will be a little more comfortable then the M plus? but as resistant to punctures?

I don't know Eddie, but since the sidewall supports those side tread profiles I suspect that Alex is right in saying they will be stiff, so probably no gain over the 1.75".

Alternatively, you could get the Big Apple 2" tyres for comfort and use the Sidewinder innertubes, but I'm not keen on those as a permanent tube. The two ends chafing can cause a self puncture and that is more likely in a very flexible tyre like the Big Apple which will allow more tube flexing.

However, if you did want to try that, here's the link for the 26" Sidewinder.
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[flecc]

Here's a thought Eddie, use a Marathon Plus on the rear where the battery and motor weight keep the road shock bounce down anyway, together with a Big Apple on the front where the comfort is also important.

That would give you a chance to find out how good the puncture resistance of the Big Apples was without big problems with puncture repairs.
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[eddieo]

Here's a thought Eddie, use a Marathon Plus on the rear where the battery and motor weight keep the road shock bounce down anyway, together with a Big Apple on the front where the comfort is also important.

That would give you a chance to find out how good the puncture resistance of the Big Apples was without big problems with puncture repairs.
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That makes good sense! we have seat post suspension, and really its the front that is the problem....... So the 2 inch big apples on front? will they fit under mudguards though

 

[flecc]

I think the 2" ones should do, it's only the larger ones that really balloon.
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[trickletreat]

Do you think the 2 inch all terrain will be a little more comfortable then the M plus? but as resistant to punctures?

Eddie, I have the marathon plus atb tyres and have put 2500 miles on them. I have ridden them in all weathers, nearly everyday for 18months, and no punctures. I have run them down to35psi which makes them very comfy, especially on the trike. The central ridge helps on tarmac, and the knobblies in the snow, ice and slush.

They do feel heavy, but the motor assist makes up for that. I too dread a rear flat with the rear hub motor.

Nigel

 

[Old Timer]

I had the marathon plus on my last bike but my new bike has no suspension Soooooo thinking of a more comfy tyre, is this a good idea or not?

schwalbe big apple or stick with marathon plus? I have a feeling I will be told to stick with marathon plus just looking for advice. but at the end of the day puncture resistance more important.

I probably missed what your new bike is Eddie?? is it a kit??

 

[eddieo]

I probably missed what your new bike is Eddie?? is it a kit??

Have a guess....go on...

no its a stop gap bike till 1006 or maybe the kit comes out. call me partisan but its a 905 SE City

Dave have you the link to the ebay shop that sells these M + tyres unfolded plse?

and Nigel any chance of proper pic of the trike it looks v interesting.....

 

[Old Timer]

Have a guess....go on...

no its a stop gap bike till 1006 or maybe the kit comes out. call me partisan but its a 905 SE City

Dave have you the link to the ebay shop that sells these M + tyres unfolded plse?

and Nigel any chance of proper pic of the trike it looks v interesting.....

Eddie

Schwalbe Marathon PLUS 26 x 1.75 puncture proof tyre on eBay (end time 29-May-10 18:21:34 BST)

There is a phone number down the page so worth just giving him a call(I did) to comfirm no fold.

BTW I just bought a superb saddle, sprung base + rear springs from Evans and it just takes away the road! period. let me know if you want a link.

From Evans Expedition plus saddle item number 102908 bin code APH480 £24.99 + £3.99 P&P.

Dave

 

[eddieo]

Thanks Dave, both our bikes have the Velo Plush seats which I am more then happy with...much better then earlier seats. No its my wrists,arms and shoulders, with lack of any front give that is the problem......

 

[trickletreat]

Eddie,

This was trike no.1, I refitted the kit from my mtb.

On the school run through the winter...

Here is the throttle position I settled on..

I bought the trike secondhand from D-Tek, Little Thetford, to see if I liked it. Have now traded it in for a folding, lighter one, which I will be motorising on the campsite at Presteigne all being well.

Nigel

 

[eddieo]

all interesting...but the red one especially so

Kevin, have you booked the campsite at Prestigne?

 

[Mussels]

That makes good sense! we have seat post suspension, and really its the front that is the problem....... So the 2 inch big apples on front? will they fit under mudguards though

I had the bigger big apples on my 905 last year, they need 60mm mudguards. They fitted fine under the Wisper mudguards that Norman fitted last year and I'm guessing they only use one size.
The big apples are no more puncture resistant than any other kevlar lined tyre and I have had several punctures. I find rubber thickness matters more than the kevlar lining and I get many more punctures when the tyre is worn. On that basis the ATB marathon tyre should be pretty good as it's got a thick tread.
I'll probably give the marathon plus tyres a go on the 906 when I get it as the larger wheels are more comfortable anyway.