Paul Kay

Looks to be a re-badged Xiaomi M365 250W or M365 Pro 300W but with a more powerful 350W motor, if that detail is true. Either way, that's an absolute bargain price, more so if it is a higher powered version. I see, probably, half a dozen or more M365s arriving at/leaving from my local railway station every commute day plus many others. At that price I would buy one... if I didn't have one already. For reference, pretty much the same picture: Xiaomi M365

My apologies Woosh, I didn't expect nor intend 'fight' to be taken in a derogatory sense. I meant it in terms of my expectation that a business would naturally defend their own, in this case technical', decisions, and I was merely explaining and trying to defend my technical decisions. I too only saw this as a technical Discussion NOT a fight. If you ever add something along the lines of the Electra Low-Rider Cruiser to your range, I'll certainly give it serious consideration, Swytch'd or pre-powered by yourselves.

Aaaahhhh!, my mistake/misunderstanding, I'll slap myself. That makes more sense then, and why the Swytch'd Brompton community have have been able to develop a similar bracket to mount the Swytch Kit

Clearly. The USP is the ease with which you can remove the greatest part of your ebike investment, the batteries (plus the controller and display), and take them with you. If your bike is stolen you haven't lost that investment. Sure other solutions lock the battery into or onto the frame and when your bike gets nicked your whole investment has gone. Don't get me wrong, I like the look of your bikes, I have one somewhat similar (somewhatish), I just personally prefer the whole concept of Swytch, but can't blame you for fighting your, naturally biased, corner as a Trade Member, and it's great to see how quickly you support your customers in this forum.

I have never needed access to or visibility of the Swytch LCD whilst in motion so don't see it as an important USP. It's USP is the integration with the mounting bracket. During a ride I much prefer to refer to a generic bike dashboard on an old smartphone. The only time the Swytch LCD would be useful, IMO, is when you want to monitor Watts being expended on the go.

Maybe that's why it doesn't bother me on my 20" wheels, though I have lowered the mounting height a little also so that it's down below the handlebars, nor on my 16" wheels where I've mounted it just above the wheel. But then that is also the versatility of the Swytch kit. There is also a bracket that has been developed within the Swytch Brompton community that mounts the power pack low down.

A good analogy, since a UK house brick weighs approx 3.5kg, about the same as the 25 mile Swytch power pack. So 2 bricks would be perhaps just slightly more than the front motor plus power pack. I agree, I also have an ebike with a rear wheel motor and frame enclosed central battery pack and the handling is completely different. However I'm a Swytch advocate because they are so simple to install in most cases, and, as in the name, are fast to switch to alternative bikes. Plus they are quick to remove the most expensive part, the battery pack, when leaving your bike for a while. It's really a simple 2 part solution, wheel + power pack, rather than the mishmash of wheel + battery pack + controller pack + display pack that other kits offer, and they also do a rear wheel motor version, if you want to move some of the weight there. Horses for Courses, I guess, I usually don't notice any handling problems... 'til I'm already embedded in the hedge And... Stop the presses, this week Swytch have announced their Version 2 power pack which will be 70% smaller and 50% lighter than their initial version. A true game-changer and fully backward compatible. So Go Swytch and be ready for the next generation power pack.

A game-changer! I want it now

May I suggest that if you get a chance you try one out. I believe that, from my experience, you will be pleasantly surprised. Especially compared to those Bromptons with 'ginormous front hanging bags on them! Which must be like steering a ballpoint through treacle on a winter's eve.

The ship is well beyond such threat, as at 23/06/19, approaching the Straits of Gibraltar, due in Felixstowe in 4 days time. See Here

Ummm... So 'Almost' is defined as '5 weeks' That reminds me of a weekly management meeting I used to go to where our Ops. Manager's favourite phrase was 'Because we've always done it that way'. My involvement with the company preceded his employment there, so one week, in good humour, I challenged him. 'Tony' I said, 'How long have you worked for us?' '4 years' was his reply. I asked for it to be minuted that henceforth 'always' should be taken to mean '4 years'.

battery Ah for both the 25 mile and 50 mile kits is in the Tech Specs