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I get to around this point on this hill before I stop usually. https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4806075,0.0035728,3a,75y,146.35h,69.53t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sgLr-aeVj_NHyyEp4QTzNYw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DgLr-aeVj_NHyyEp4QTzNYw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D321.1282%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656?coh=205409&entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTAxNi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

I thought a mid drive motor with gears would solve the problem if it has high enough torque like 70+ NM. Or would that still be a struggle to get up hills?

Yes that one.

The bike is an ADO AIR 20.

I have a rear drive motor e bike but it can't get me up some hills. I'm 100kg without much stamina. I have seen on youtube some of the electric mountain bikes in high gears going up pretty steep muddy hills. I'm not planning on going off road but I'd like to be able to get up steep ish hills without much effort, even if it is slowly. I've been thinking to get one of those ebikes with a bosch motor because the bosch motors and their torque are stated on that website, and these bikes say which motor is on them. So I'm wondering with my weight how many NM of torque I will need on one of these motors to get up hills easily? Or even on other motors.

So I have two ebikes. One is can't get me up most hills. The heavy fat tire one has pushed me up hills. There's one hill that gets traffic on it sometimes so in the middle of the night I rode there and stopped on the hill to simulate what could happen. I could not get accelerate after I stopped as the fat tire E-bike is heavy and the assist takes over a second to kick in on that bike. I thought that is dangerous. The bike has a throttle which could give an initial boost but it came dead because of the law. With lighter thin wheeled e bikes can you continue up a steep hill after a stop?

don't care if it folds 105kg at least 12 miles preferably 20+miles. First e bike claimed 100km range but barely got 20km at max assist and that range reduced after several months.

I started cycling last year and have gone through two Ebikes. I have an Ado Air 20 and Engwe L20. My main problem with the former is it struggles with hills. With the Engwe it doesn't feel enough like a bicycle. It's heavy with fat tires. The assistance takes like 2 seconds to take effect and it doesn't feel like my pedalling force is doing much compared with the motor. It's not far from ghost pedalling sometimes. Also the website I bought it from said it's UK road legal but the bike has a dead throttle which is unlockable I don't think I can remove so I'm not sure how law enforcement would react to that. So my requirements for a new E-bike would be something that can get up hills 10-12% and is surely allowed. I also want to be able to get exercise on it but turn the assist to maximum when I'm tired. I don't care if it's assisted only up to 15.5mph but if so would like to be able to pedal up to like 20mph. I would also like it to either have a large range battery or be ridable without a battery. Both E-bikes I've tried are torture on the legs to or unrideable without assist. budget for the bike is up to £3k

I believe you but do you have a link or something that one could shop a police if stopped?

Are we allowed to use e bikes labelled 250 watts with a throttle that only pushes the bike at like 3.7mph? I've seen some of them. Apparently they make it easy to walk the bike uphill. The thing is I would be worried a policemen would just see a throttle and try to seize the bike. Do they just check the motor wattage and see how fast the throttle goes or do they confisquate it and run tests or something?

I would've wanted a more powerful bike is so I could get up steeper hills and I guess maybe to throttle up a hill without much leg effort because it takes it's toll on me. But I don't want the bike taken from me. I can't afford to replace it.

I bought an ebike labelled 250 watts and all that because I didn't want ot have my investment seized. It's been less than a week and I haven't been riding more than 30 mins a day, and I've seen an electric scooter in the bike lane, a guy throttling his e - bike down the cycle lane at like 30 mph, and a teen around 14 with what looked like an e bike that could do over 30mph.

which city are you in? I'm in London. I don't know if police enforce the e bike law down here but I wouldn't want to waste so much money getting one confiscated.

Don't have a bike to attach that to and is it road legal in the uk?

I have a budget from £800-1400 but would prefer to keep it on the lower side. Bikes I'm interested in: Ado air Ado a20 Honbike U4 Both companies have bad reviews on trustpilot with overall no more than 3 stars. I have seen good reviews for all of these bikes. I wanted to just get the ADO a20 as it's the cheapest but I've heard some offputting information. For example someone seen online: someone claimed they couldn't pedal fast enough to exeed 15 mph on it at the highest assist level. same person also claimed it's too heavy to ride without the pedal assist Those are both deal breakers for me. I asked markshop if you can pedal past 15pmh on the ado a20 and they said yes but the pedal assist will stop. Markshop has 4.8 stars on trust pilot and seems to sell mostly ado bikes, yet the official ado site has a lot of bad reviews. Not sure what's going on there. There are also people on trustpilot complaining about bad after sale support from ADO. I would need to be able to replace worn out parts when they fail. I haven't seen anyone online complain about the ADO air, except that the seat isn't very comfortable, but it is a new bike. The honbike u4 seems good but very expensive and honbike also has bad reviews on trustpilot. Actually engwie also had lots of bad reviews. I would go with the ADO a20 if those dealbreakers aren't true, otherwise I'm willing to pay the extra to avoid any future hassle. P.S you can recommend other e bikes.