October 11, 20169 yr Hi all! I was surfing around looking for a new commuter. I mostly bike roads but also a little gravel and trails sometimes. Now I have a "trekking" bike with 60mm fork and front hub drive. It feels like I should need something more trail-oriented with mid drive. As I live in a quite hilly area and want to go everywhere. So I have searched alot, Haibike and others, until I found this Cube. Awesome price for a CX-motor which is, as it seems, amongst the best choices? And it is so beatiful I think! Very nice bike. Anyone has some opinions of this one? Guess I will need to change front sprocket. And I am also a little worried that the built-in motor will overheat?! But I guess that's not a problem (I have that problem now and hate it). https://www.cube.eu/sk/2017/e-bike-hardtail/reaction-hybrid/cube-reaction-hybrid-hpa-sl-500-blacknglossy-2017/
October 11, 20169 yr Do i see upside down forks on one of these images? Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
October 11, 20169 yr Author Do i see upside down forks on one of these images?no, it's a standard one: http://www.cube.eu/media_ftp/BIKE_Bilder_2017/865170/865170_light.jpg
October 11, 20169 yr When I clicked the link one of the images of a blue/black/red cube had upside down forks and a big gap over the wheel. Have had a few beers but that's how it looked in that one image Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
October 11, 20169 yr Why do you think that the motor will overheat? I'd have thought that the standard 16t front sprocket would also be okay for reasonably hilly areas, especially with the 11-46 cassette.
October 11, 20169 yr http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161011/f45f5af395c8643241b0cfe4246a3b86.jpg Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
October 11, 20169 yr You aren't getting the full webpage to display. The link is correct and working fine.
October 11, 20169 yr Oh yes I got the full page but spotted that which looked interesting so isolated it and did a screen grab.. didn't realise upside downers were out there.. looks kool Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
October 11, 20169 yr Author http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161011/f45f5af395c8643241b0cfe4246a3b86.jpg Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk ok, but that must be some other model, not the same fork
October 11, 20169 yr there these http://www.tredz.co.uk/.RockShox-RS1-ACS-Solo-Air-XLoc-Remote-Right-Carbon-Str-Tapered-A3-MTB-Suspension-Fork-2017_94387.htm?sku=332408&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=google_shopping&gclid=CjwKEAjwm_K_BRDx5o-sxq6ouXASJAC7TsFLKcH5uLBFB-UXYxv8g8suuMQWjZra7MYbb_SsAZN_vxoCAd_w_wcB with 120mm travel and that price they can keep um.
October 11, 20169 yr Author Why do you think that the motor will overheat? I'd have thought that the standard 16t front sprocket would also be okay for reasonably hilly areas, especially with the 11-46 cassette.well, since there as so much extra sorrounding the motor. But I guess they have considered that one so it should be a non-issue. Yes, I think it is ok for mtb'ing, but image if one should use a dongle and be able to pass the cruise state. Then it could be nice with bigger. But I have seen lots of other sprockets. I hope they are easy to change so you can change over to the 16T again when doing only forrest. And put on the 18T or whatever you chose when monday comes and ready for commuting. Or maybe that ain't no issue at all with such a wide cassette. Whatever, that is not a deal-braker. Easy to "fix" afterwards. I like that bike more and more. Prepared for mud guards and I guess a simple rack will fit also. Perfect for all-round use it seems.
October 11, 20169 yr Author there these http://www.tredz.co.uk/.RockShox-RS1-ACS-Solo-Air-XLoc-Remote-Right-Carbon-Str-Tapered-A3-MTB-Suspension-Fork-2017_94387.htm?sku=332408&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=google_shopping&gclid=CjwKEAjwm_K_BRDx5o-sxq6ouXASJAC7TsFLKcH5uLBFB-UXYxv8g8suuMQWjZra7MYbb_SsAZN_vxoCAd_w_wcB with 120mm travel and that price they can keep um.for those who wants to pay a little extra
October 11, 20169 yr well, since there as so much extra sorrounding the motor. But I guess they have considered that one so it should be a non-issue. Yes, I think it is ok for mtb'ing, but image if one should use a dongle and be able to pass the cruise state. Then it could be nice with bigger. But I have seen lots of other sprockets. I hope they are easy to change so you can change over to the 16T again when doing only forrest. And put on the 18T or whatever you chose when monday comes and ready for commuting. Or maybe that ain't no issue at all with such a wide cassette. Whatever, that is not a deal-braker. Easy to "fix" afterwards. I like that bike more and more. Prepared for mud guards and I guess a simple rack will fit also. Perfect for all-round use it seems. SW has a double front cog conversion and I bought some mudhugger guards that were excellent
October 11, 20169 yr Author you can kick it over with ur foot but might chop ur toes off lol Cool! I would be comfortable with such a solution. Is it a spacer between them? Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk
October 11, 20169 yr yes but its on the inside of the big sprocket is the only pita so can only change the inside sprocket. tho if you could grind down a cheap sprocket to make a spacer that should work as that all it is. the lock ring will need the thread all the way to the end tho as my other one has a space so will not screw on.
October 12, 20169 yr Author REACTION HYBRID HPA SL 500 - This top of my Santa's list +1 (but I might make santa come earlier) I just discovered there are like 20 different models. Anyone knows the difference between the SL and SLT (except that the SLT comes with 2.6" tyres (and Fox fork), I really hope frame is the same so you can fit 2.6" on the SL also) /edit: The SLT frame has "boost" (and X12) whatever that is https://www.cube.eu/en/2017/e-bike-hardtail/reaction-hybrid/cube-reaction-hybrid-hpa-sl-500-blacknglossy-2017/ https://www.cube.eu/en/2017/e-bike-hardtail/reaction-hybrid/cube-reaction-hybrid-hpa-slt-500-blacknflashyellow-2017/ Edited October 12, 20169 yr by Deere John
October 12, 20169 yr Author The SLT frame has "boost" (and X12) whatever that isok, boost is a little wider dropout, and X12 is the axle for it. It might well be because of that the SLT use 2.8. So this is a huge factor when considering (and it's also about €500 more).
October 12, 20169 yr didn't realise upside downers were out there.. looks kool Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk KTM are enjoying great success with that at both world level racing and at amateur level racing. Their eMTB's fitted with USD front forks don't look too shabby either. I'm even actually tempted to sell the Macina Lycan in favour of one. Not that I can find the limits of the existing bike, just my own.
October 13, 20169 yr Author The one with upside down fork is the Eagle, the top model in the line. I could have one of those even though they mounted the fork the wrong way /btw: it has 1x12! http://www.cube.eu/media_ftp/BIKE_Bilder_2017/865300/865300_light.jpg
October 13, 20169 yr Gravity casting is the cheapo method of casting aluminium. It means pour in molten aluminium into a mould. The mould is a box of sand. You make a pattern, then press it into the wet sand to make the mould. The moulding comes out rough, so has to have additional operations to get it suitable to be used in a bike like that, like fettling, linnishing and painting - basically smoothing out the surface. They're the post production steps that they mention. It's the lowest tech and cheapest way to get cast aluminium. We did that in school. That advertising is just bullsh!t hype. When they say that it takes it to the next level, they mean downwards. Precision aluminium casting, like the motor parts are done by pressure die casting, but for that you need expensive machined metal moulds. That only works if you have enough quantity of parts to cover the cost of the moulds - say 10,000 - but the process is very quick and precise, so once it's all set up, the cost per part is minimal. Typically for 0 to 100 parts, you'd use gravity casting and machining. For 100 to 10,000, lost wax casting, where you make a rubber mould from an original part, and cast wax replicas, which you then cast in plaster of paris, then heat it up to melt out the wax, which leaves a more precise mould than sand into which you pour the molten aluminium. 10,000plus = pressure die casting. I would have thought that they would have used the lost wax method for those parts.
October 14, 20169 yr Author ok, d8veh, you crashed it! I have now reconsidered! well, honestly I was into a store yesterday and tried the concept (same biketype but with Yamaha 80 Nm-motor). And I thought that it would be better having my trekking-bike as commuter and instead buy a more dedicated forrest-bike instead of doing some compromise again. So... I was browsing all evening and... to make a long story short, I found a Haibike Fatsix 2016 at great discount so I ordered that instead! Think it will be awesome. No more compromising, and this what what I really wanted, so now it's done. Will be great fun to explore the terrain now.
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