March 4, 20251 yr Wisper only offer this for bikes they sell , as it is a poduct they know and design. It is for other brands to step up their game to also offer the same . Equally if one can get a certificate of confomity one can take any branded EAPC for testing or if a self build conforms to the regs also have it tested . One can make up or buy labels or self adhesive trophy labels printed with all the relevent details for a bike plate. Motor though must have a 250w engraving of makers label other wise as long as it can't go faster then 15.5mph or more then 48v it will comply. A bike stand will be needed I beleive.
March 4, 20251 yr Wisper only offer this for bikes they sell , as it is a poduct they know and design. It is for other brands to step up their game to also offer the same . Equally if one can get a certificate of confomity one can take any branded EAPC for testing or if a self build conforms to the regs also have it tested . One can make up or buy labels or self adhesive trophy labels printed with all the relevent details for a bike plate. Motor though must have a 250w engraving of makers label other wise as long as it can't go faster then 15.5mph or more then 48v it will comply. A bike stand will be needed I beleive. Thanks my bike is fully legal look up knapp black edition it’s 250watt with 3 x 21Ah batteries 1 is standard under seat pullout which I have a spare also a triangle yose gitted in frame with a hailong on bottle bracket I have a balancer fitted between the 3 but use the one at a time until they on 1 bar then switch of and turn another on only problem is my thumb throttle which I really do need for the reasons said earlier the bike is branded from Holland basically same as barracuda rogue. Everything is stamped and marked by factory 250.
March 4, 20251 yr Once you have a V5 certificate (testing fee is approx.£55) , one only needs to hve it tested once as it is a one off test. It then is a legal LPM250w EAPC a concession only legal in England and Wales and can be treated for use as any other EAPC is , albeit with a legally operated speed control device not exceeding 15.5mph.
March 4, 20251 yr It then is a legal LPM250w EAPC a concession only legal in England and Wales and can be treated for use as any other EAPC is , Does this mean even the Wisper officially tested throttle bikes are not legal in Scotland?
March 4, 20251 yr Does this mean even the Wisper officially tested throttle bikes are not legal in Scotland? No, they are legal in Great Britain. It's only Northern Ireland in the UK that has devolved transport law. .
March 4, 20251 yr No, they are legal in Great Britain. It's only Northern Ireland in the UK that has devolved transport law. Thanks, I thought that would be it; but I've thought a lot of misfacts in this area (as have quite a lot of others) so thought it worth checking, especially as Nealh's post was so precise.
March 4, 20251 yr Once you have a V5 certificate (testing fee is approx.£55) , one only needs to hve it tested once as it is a one off test. It then is a legal LPM250w EAPC a concession only legal in England and Wales and can be treated for use as any other EAPC is , albeit with a legally operated speed control device not exceeding 15.5mph. Thanks so does that mean it’s still ok to ride on cycleways without me having to get it insured as the powers that be revoked my driving licence due to me going blind for 3 months my vision is back now I would say 95% I just get slight issues if dazzled by lights at night so also insurance companies would stick it up me so to speak.
March 4, 20251 yr Yes, with that registration and certificate it is classed as an EAPC, which basically allows it to be used almost like a push bike. The only difference I know of between EAPC and push bike rules is that an EAPC can't legally be ridden by under 14s. (I guess that doesn't apply to you.)
March 4, 20251 yr Thanks, I thought that would be it; but I've thought a lot of misfacts in this area (as have quite a lot of others) so thought it worth checking, especially as Nealh's post was so precise. Of course Northern Ireland's minister could pass the same ruling and for all I know might have done so since they usually follow our law. However that might be less than useful since N.I had no approved testing stations the last time I checked. . Edited March 4, 20251 yr by flecc
March 4, 20251 yr My bike is basically the same as that so I will look into getting it certified I even had put rubber trims on my mudguards last year as protection to stop edges getting damaged so I’m happy to see that in the video Thanks all
March 5, 20251 yr the bike will spin up with the wheel of the floor to 16 mph but on the floor under load it sits at 14 to 15.4 ish thats on the display a c916 i have actually been chatting to police in the last 4 months out and around the north east coast and to be honest they did not seem that concerned(probably because im an old fart) but they do comment on the bikes looks and always say its a nice thing and ask the speed , i reply its quite slow 15 mph and wouldnt pull the skin of a custard never ever have they mentioned my throttle and more often interested in my action camera on the bars. i think to be safe as it does seem things are getting a bit more serious on the throttle side i will have to look for a better method to set away on the bike i would think it may be possible to make a push button setup with a switch to isolate it if i was stopped its a real shame that i have to even think this way but needs must because im not getting any younger also my issues with mobility will get worse with age but im not ready for one of them dam mobility things yet and hope never Snap I am in the same condition also in the northeast and thinking the same with the throttle acute severe emphysema that’s stage four so peddling or ghost peddling is ok . but not sure I could just peddle especially pulling away . this is a freedom thing for me aged 70 .
March 5, 20251 yr Snap I am in the same condition also in the northeast and thinking the same with the throttle acute severe emphysema that’s stage four so peddling or ghost peddling is ok . but not sure I could just peddle especially pulling away . this is a freedom thing for me aged 70 . Not criticising or judging in any way but I often wonder how people who don't have the strength, stability etc to ride a bike normally i.e. without a throttle are going to cope with the reality of riding on roads in real life. I have worked with disabled people in other environments (skiing) and usually if there is something that compromises their abilities there is something visible to tell everyone around them there is something different going on. I have seen people with mobility issues riding trikes etc with red flags flying on fairly long poles but this is only on shared footpath/bike lanes where people have plenty of time to react.
March 5, 20251 yr Not criticising or judging in any way but I often wonder how people who don't have the strength, stability etc to ride a bike normally i.e. without a throttle are going to cope with the reality of riding on roads in real life. I have worked with disabled people in other environments (skiing) and usually if there is something that compromises their abilities there is something visible to tell everyone around them there is something different going on. I have seen people with mobility issues riding trikes etc with red flags flying on fairly long poles but this is only on shared footpath/bike lanes where people have plenty of time to react. Well let’s start with me doing rehab for 2 years then 3 years adjusting to life with disabilities then saving for a bike as I had always rode motorbikes/mountain bikes before my strokes then getting courage to venture out to local park when it’s quiet to see if I could use the bike safely which took time too now 3 years later I have 2005 miles on the bike with only one fall of when I first tried to pedal away so I think I did it right before putting myself or others in danger Common sense my friend
March 5, 20251 yr Snap I am in the same condition also in the northeast and thinking the same with the throttle acute severe emphysema that’s stage four so peddling or ghost peddling is ok . but not sure I could just peddle especially pulling away . this is a freedom thing for me aged 70 . I am going to get my bike certified asap as mine is legal 36 volt 250 just the thumb throttle is the issue so I will be doing when i find out we’re to take the bike in Newcastle
March 5, 20251 yr Mine is emphysema thats a lung problem most people would just sit in a chair and do nothing . i am stage 4 I do what I can and do not rely on others if possible . i peddle when I can and throttle when I need a breather . stability is no problem I used to kayak but never kept up with the others . And knew when it was time to stop kayaking . riding my bike gets me out to the local beach for fishing a disability scooter would not go across any rough ground . the beach is only 1 1/4 miles away and only cross a road the rest is waste land and cycle tracks .
March 5, 20251 yr Mine is emphysema thats a lung problem most people would just sit in a chair and do nothing . i am stage 4 I do what I can and do not rely on others if possible . i peddle when I can and throttle when I need a breather . stability is no problem I used to kayak but never kept up with the others . And knew when it was time to stop kayaking . riding my bike gets me out to the local beach for fishing a disability scooter would not go across any rough ground . the beach is only 1 1/4 miles away and only cross a road the rest is waste land and cycle tracks . Yes I don’t think the powers that be realise the freedom ebikes can bring to disabled people and should allow throttles if you can show a genuine need and have medical proof.
March 5, 20251 yr I think more so that those with a disability that do their best to be out and about and be mobile (rather then those that give in and say no and sit indoors or do nothing) should look in to the realms of LPM 250w EAPC requirements. It's takes away the threat of having the bike confiscated and if plod do try it on one can point out the Gov't DVLA web site and the 100% legality of having a 250LPM EAPC as according to DVLA and it bein gtested and conforming to regs with V5 certification. In fact photocopy or carry a pic of it on a mobile phone for proof. The test isn't an onourous one , obvious things like good brakes and a bike stand are required. Battery securing and tidy wiring It needs a plate /label conforming to the UK specs , max speed or voltage (both won't hurt) , wattage and a maker name maybe . There aren't to many of these testing stations in the UK who carry out tests on EAPC's but one should be able to find one hopefuuly not too far away. If one does ahve one not far away then maybe worth popping in and having a discuussion as to the exact requirements for the bike so as not to waste your time when presenting it for a test. By far the easiest route is a Wisper EAPC for which Wisper will have the bike inspected/tested prior to delivery or being collected , there is an additionl small charge for this on top of the bike RRP but this is to be expected . Edited March 6, 20251 yr by Nealh
March 5, 20251 yr https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlxZs2-gICc:330 top speed uk. This depends very much on the type of operation the aircraft are conducting. Although they can travel faster, our helicopters will usually cruise between 120-130knots (135-150mph), and aeroplanes 120-140knots (130-160mph) .
March 6, 20251 yr Author I am going to get my bike certified asap as mine is legal 36 volt 250 just the thumb throttle is the issue so I will be doing when i find out we’re to take the bike in Newcastle It's not as easy as you think. There are many special requirements that can catch you out - things like it must have a stand, round ends on the levers, no sharp edges, cables all protected by trunking or covers and things like that. Watch some videos or read forum posts from people who have actually done it to see what's involved, otherwise you have to get it tested twice.
March 6, 20251 yr It's not as easy as you think. There are many special requirements that can catch you out - things like it must have a stand, round ends on the levers, no sharp edges, cables all protected by trunking or covers and things like that. Watch some videos or read forum posts from people who have actually done it to see what's involved, otherwise you have to get it tested twice. Thank you for the heads up all the things you mentioned I have even down to me putting edging rubber trim on my metal mudguards some months back which I did for looks and was pleasantly surprised to see it is something that has to be done, I also have plastic coverers on the wheel nuts and rubber coil protection on all cables but when I find out we’re I have to take the bike I will get a load of good closeup pictures of the bike and then contact or go to the said place to find out more before taking the bike. Thanks again you all are a great help . Edited March 6, 20251 yr by Only-Me
March 9, 20251 yr Police Seize Modified E-Bike in Northamptonshire Over Road Violations https://uknip.co.uk/news/uk/breaking/police-seize-modified-e-bike-in-northamptonshire-over-road-violations/
March 9, 20251 yr Police Seize Modified E-Bike in Northamptonshire Over Road Violations https://uknip.co.uk/news/uk/breaking/police-seize-modified-e-bike-in-northamptonshire-over-road-violations/ Police Seize Modified E-Bike in Northamptonshire Over Road Violations https://uknip.co.uk/news/uk/breaking/police-seize-modified-e-bike-in-northamptonshire-over-road-violations/ I was told today that if your bike was made before 2018 and has a thumb throttle as standard it’s legal ? Perhaps those with real knowledge could clarify this I was told they call it grandad rights , very appropriate for me
March 9, 20251 yr Glasgow police crackdown on illegal e-bikes - and this happened https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/24987033.glasgow-police-crackdown-illegal-e-bikes---happened/
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