same as the cost of cameras, the cost of sensors will come down rapidly whereas the cost of employing humans (eg to find and fill potholes) tend to go up.
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Having robotic drive on main routes out of town and on in-city arterial routes would eliminate most of the deaths.
For example London has 13.5% of the national population but only 7% of the road deaths. Take out the deaths on the main urban routes that could also be roboticised and urban deaths would greatly reduce with drivers only in charge on very slow portions of journeys.
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As will the cost of the humans fitting those trillions of sensors!
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I am most interested in the potential of driverless cars to reduce the number of cars on our roads. Why would you want to own a car if you can just call it up like a taxi?
Because as I've said, it could never do what car does for me. That is indisputable fact, and I can give examples.
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What? Have you tatsed S. Africa oranges? I have. They seem perfectly good to me. We are paying extra for Spanish oranges whereas once we leave the EU we will get the same but cheaper from S. Africa. How on earth do you manage to twist the logic around any other way than that? Amazing.
No - its not just about price. But you're missing the point - right now we have no choice - we HAVE to pay extra because of the EU.
You too huh? F**k the African farmers who can supply the same product for less. And you call yourself a socialist. Shame on you.
What are you talking about? We are not planning to put tariffs on anybody. Especially not S. Africa who say they want a free trade agreement with us. Right now they can produce - AND DELIVER - perfectly good oranges (some might even say better) - FOR LESS MONEY.
Why is this so f***ing hard? 2+2=4. Look it up.
I'm not missing any point, I like the EU and am happy to pay EU prices for the greater good. I'm very sorry that we are leaving the EU, but at least we will be rejoining it when sanity returns.
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As a newly old age pensioner and therefore entitled to a free travel card , I am revelling in the freedom it can afford me if I choose to go into the city. There are functions that at present there a personal car delivers better than alternatives, shopping , urgent journeys, going to the dump . But likewise there are and were alternatives and if social conditions change, these alternatives will reserve. If for example one was in Manhattan, driving or having a car, even for the disabled is bonkers. I am also noticing that many urban dwellers are giving up on cars and getting home delivery services.
A work colleague of mine,at least 15 years younger, had taken early retirement, and spent some two years in France. On his return he had found that all his no claims car insurance benefits had lapsed, and he would have a huge car insurance bill. Car insurance and car prices are much higher in Ireland than in the UK, as we have no automobile industry to protect. His pragmatic solution is to use his ebike around town and hire cars at weekends as required. Much less expensive, no maintenance, no depreciation.
So I appreciate that within the current structures, you believe the private car is indespensible for you, but structures can change.
I am for lowering tariff for imports from African countries (I posted about coffee and coffee derivatives) but don't think we pay extra because our supermarkets sell oranges from Spain, Portugal and Morocco, there is no import duty on Morocco fresh oranges (HS code 0805102210).
'Greater good'? Well. In my humble (not) opinion that is just total *******. So the Africa farmers are not part of your 'greater good'. Shame on you. Free trade is what has lifted millions of people out of poverty. And will continue to do so. Your attitude sucks.
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As it happens they can't change, when I said indisputable it was a fact, a driverless taxi could not do for me what a car does, ever.
Sunday 8th October, conducting fungi walk in our nature reserve. Elderly man taken ill and collapsed, concious but as weak as a kitten. Impossible place for a road ambulance and nowhere near for the air ambulance, even if available. I raced down to the car park, unlocked the barrier and drove cross country and through the woods in my 4 x 4 car, picked him up and quickly got him to help. A robotic taxi could never do that, it couldn't unlock the barrier and couldn't handle the surface conditions.
At one time I had a boat which I used to tow down to the coast. A taxi could do that, couldn't handle the area at my end and couldn't launch the boat.
In 2016 I used my car to carry a third of a tonne of gravel at a time doing path repairs in the reserve. A robotic taxi couldn't do that, and couldn't drive in the reserve anyway.
This year I've used a pickup to do that work, same applies, not a chance of a robotic taxi doing it.
These are just a few of the weird and wonderful ways that ordinary people like me use their cars. There are many others, like towing caravans onto open sites, even towing gliders into the air. I'd like to see a robotic taxi do that.
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The greater good of the EU by keeping the money inside rather than exporting it. Like others we have aid programs to look after areas of need.
You are the one ************, all you were on about was price, but now you pretend to be concerned about the African farmers to suit your argument.
At least my attitude isn't dishonest.
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Oh - 'Aid' programmes. Where we give money directly to the corrupt leaders of that country. Nice going Flecc, nice going. F**k the poor again huh?
Oxygen, we do get your point, it is possible to get everything cheaper somewhere, particularly if you reduce the wages of those producing it. The EU is both a trading block, the largest in the world, and a social entity with what many, myself included, believe to be laudible principles. It is not quite as doctrinaire as either the USA or China or the Russian federation. Many of us like that about it.
Your argument is so totally bankrupt. Yes I gain from this - BUT SO DO THE POOR. You on the other hand want to hand money to the monopoly and the corrupt leaders. And you don't see it. You think I am the one being selfish. You have no idea.