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I did something similar moving between the various delights of Youtube and Pornhub.
I gave up on the TV and worked on this painting of Staithes, North Yorkshire
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Water based oils on A3 Stretched Canvas, been working on it from time to time for four days, now about half way to the point when I give up and leave it in the "pending" pile!
 
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Anyone care to estimate the pollution caused by multiple 41-gun salutes?

Explosives? Energy input? Shoe polish? Smoke and carbon particulates? Metallic nanoparticles?

You: Keep yourself warm by putting on more clothes, turning the thermostat down, relying on solar panels.

Them: Splurge unnecessary energy and physical/chemical resources in making noises, distributing chemical and physical pollutants, etc.
 
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Anyone care to estimate the pollution caused by multiple 41-gun salutes?

Explosives? Energy input? Shoe polish? Smoke and carbon particulates? Metallic nanoparticles.
About half as much as me firing up my old Villiers trials bike, which runs on nearly as much oil as petrol. Fills Street with blue smoke, horrible noise but it's great fun..
I started it up yesterday and gave him my own 400 gun salute... You can hear each crack of explosion.. I, m real popular with my neighbours..
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About half as much as me firing up my old Villiers trials bike, which runs on nearly as much oil as petrol. Fills Street with blue smoke, horrible noise but it's great fun..
I started it up yesterday and gave him my own 400 gun salute... You can hear each crack of explosion.. I, m real popular with my neighbours..
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Worst bike I ever had for smoke was a rather battered 1965 Jawa 350cc two stroke twin, you didn't need the rear view mirrors
Then I had the brilliant notion to give it the Redex treatment.
Plugs out, 50cc Redex poured into both barrels, old towel over the spark plug holes and crank the engine over.
Two hours of cleaning later I put the plugs back in and started the engine, "Run it till the smoke clears for ten minutes" said the instructions.
Oh my God! I doubt if a Navy Destroyer could conjure up a better smoke screen, and certainly not a smellier one.
Eventually I rode it very gently out to the country roads will lots of smoke trailing behind, till I was in an empty road and opened it up. The road behind disappeared in a dense fog, which only improved about an hour later.
Years later having forgotten this happening, I made the same mistake with an 850 cc mini.
I should have known better!
Never again!
 
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Worst bike I ever had for smoke was a rather battered 1965 Jawa 350cc two stroke twin, you didn't need the rear view mirrors
Then I had the brilliant notion to give it the Redex treatment.
Plugs out, 50cc Redex poured into both barrels, old towel over the spark plug holes and crank the engine over.
Two hours of cleaning later I put the plugs back in and started the engine, "Run it till the smoke clears for ten minutes" said the instructions.
Oh my God! I doubt if a Navy Destroyer could conjure up a better smoke screen, and certainly not a smellier one.
Eventually I rode it very gently out to the country roads will lots of smoke trailing behind, till I was in an empty road and opened it up. The road behind disappeared in a dense fog, which only improved about an hour later.
Years later having forgotten this happening, I made the same mistake with an 850 cc mini.
I should have known better!
Never again!
Yep, the old 2 stokes could burn oil. Recommendation for mine after rebuild is16 to 1 fuel/oil. 20 to 1 after run in.
Modern 2 strokes with synthetic oils can cope with 50 to 1...Reckon some go higher than that on oil injection systems.. Bit of an argument raging in pre 65 trials stuff. Some reckon old engines will cope with new oils and higher ratios. Some reckon not.?? I do know old clutches can't cope with synthetic oils. Makes them slip.
I, m running Villiers on 20 to 1...none synthetic..??? And putting up with blue haze.
 
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Yep, the old 2 stokes could burn oil. Recommendation for mine after rebuild is16 to 1 fuel/oil. 20 to 1 after run in.
Modern 2 strokes with synthetic oils can cope with 50 to 1...Reckon some go higher than that on oil injection systems.. Bit of an argument raging in pre 65 trials stuff. Some reckon old engines will cope with new oils and higher ratios. Some reckon not.?? I do know old clutches can't cope with synthetic oils. Makes them slip.
I, m running Villiers on 20 to 1...none synthetic..??? And putting up with blue haze.
Recently (for me) it has been almost entirely vans and Range Rovers which have been laying down smoke trails. Most motorbikes have been very clean - at least in the visible/smellable area!
 
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Recently (for me) it has been almost entirely vans and Range Rovers which have been laying down smoke trails. Most motorbikes have been very clean - at least in the visible/smellable area!
I used to have an old mini. I think valve stem seals start to leak and let oil drain into ports on them... It used to "lay down smoke" for 5 miles or so, then run perfect till parked up for a while. Number of people that told me big end was going.It wasn't. I was too lazy to fix it at time.. Just carried a gallon of cheap oil in car.. It is 40 years ago. Honest. Different times.
 
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Worst bike I ever had for smoke was a rather battered 1965 Jawa 350cc two stroke twin, you didn't need the rear view mirrors
Then I had the brilliant notion to give it the Redex treatment.
Plugs out, 50cc Redex poured into both barrels, old towel over the spark plug holes and crank the engine over.
Two hours of cleaning later I put the plugs back in and started the engine, "Run it till the smoke clears for ten minutes" said the instructions.
Oh my God! I doubt if a Navy Destroyer could conjure up a better smoke screen, and certainly not a smellier one.
Eventually I rode it very gently out to the country roads will lots of smoke trailing behind, till I was in an empty road and opened it up. The road behind disappeared in a dense fog, which only improved about an hour later.
Years later having forgotten this happening, I made the same mistake with an 850 cc mini.
I should have known better!
Never again!
We had a special way of giving cars the RedX treatment. Back when cars had a vacuum advance / retard we took the pipe off the distributor and put it into a Fairy Liquid bottle filled with RedX.
Every time the throttle closed RedX was sucked into the inlet manifold, when the throttle opened the resulting smoke screen was quite something, much to the consternation of following drivers.
 

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We had a special way of giving cars the RedX treatment. Back when cars had a vacuum advance / retard we took the pipe off the distributor and put it into a Fairy Liquid bottle filled with RedX.
Every time the throttle closed RedX was sucked into the inlet manifold, when the throttle opened the resulting smoke screen was quite something, much to the consternation of following drivers.
When a mate of mine got married I hired a Reliant 3 wheeler and did that to it(oil instead of redex) . I was best man and picked him up to take to church in it.. Bride, parents and most guests didn't see funny side...which made it funnier. It was spluttering, missing and smoking, only just made it... Happy dayz..
 
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I used to have an old mini. I think valve stem seals start to leak and let oil drain into ports on them... It used to "lay down smoke" for 5 miles or so, then run perfect till parked up for a while. Number of people that told me big end was going.It wasn't. I was too lazy to fix it at time.. Just carried a gallon of cheap oil in car.. It is 40 years ago. Honest. Different times.
I have a berkeley se328. it has an excelsior talisman - 328cc two stroke designed before ww2, gutless at any revs. And it's not worth anything. I'm not sure why I still have it, other than the fact that I like eccentric losers (Lawrie bond its designer) and theres something about tarnished old aluminium and a chain drive that mesmerised me. Oddly, even though it consumes lots pil (1/16 premixed) it doesnt smoke visibly.
 

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I have a berkeley se328. it has an excelsior talisman - 328cc two stroke designed before ww2, gutless at any revs. And it's not worth anything. I'm not sure why I still have it, other than the fact that I like eccentric losers (Lawrie bond its designer) and theres something about tarnished old aluminium and a chain drive that mesmerised me. Oddly, even though it consumes lots pil (1/16 premixed) it doesnt smoke visibly.
Old motorbikes have a unique fascination not replicated in any other transport. Been to IOM a few times to watch racing. End up doing a tour of all their museums and spending hours looking at old bikes..
 

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Old motorbikes have a unique fascination not replicated in any other transport. Been to IOM a few times to watch racing. End up doing a tour of all their museums and spending hours looking at old bikes..
Best fun for the money was supplied by Dawsons of Nottingham who sold ex forces machines for a song
The year was 1965 or was it 64? and I bought an BSA M20 from them and it was delivered by rail , registered and in theory ready for the road.
I found it easily as I hear a group of chaps laughing as one pointed to it and said "look at that they've even painted the bloody tyres green and the saddle and chain too!"
After nearly kicking it to death , the oldest chap said "here let, me have a go"
Retarded the ignition, tickled the carb till it flooded, operated the valve lifted, and dammit it burst into life at the first swing!!
It was quiet for a 500cc, the brakes were awful but the girder forks ok when you tightened the ferodo friction damper.
I got it home and dad said among other things, "I rode one of those as a DR" then looked at the petrol tank from a fully angle.
"I don't believe it! he said I can see a Jerboa that's been painted over, it was one of ours!" he explained that the bike had been with the 50 div in the western desert where he was before and after Alamein.
 

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Best fun for the money was supplied by Dawsons of Nottingham who sold ex forces machines for a song
The year was 1965 or was it 64? and I bought an BSA M20 from them and it was delivered by rail , registered and in theory ready for the road.
I found it easily as I hear a group of chaps laughing as one pointed to it and said "look at that they've even painted the bloody tyres green and the saddle and chain too!"
After nearly kicking it to death , the oldest chap said "here let, me have a go"
Retarded the ignition, tickled the carb till it flooded, operated the valve lifted, and dammit it burst into life at the first swing!!
It was quiet for a 500cc, the brakes were awful but the girder forks ok when you tightened the ferodo friction damper.
I got it home and dad said among other things, "I rode one of those as a DR" then looked at the petrol tank from a fully angle.
"I don't believe it! he said I can see a Jerboa that's been painted over, it was one of ours!" he explained that the bike had been with the 50 div in the western desert where he was before and after Alamein.
Lovely story. Nice one...
 

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Only 7 deaths and under 2000 cases today... Low even considering slow reporting on Sundays.. Hopeful figures.
Yes, the low figures recently are especially encouraging given that temperatures in March and April so far have been below average.

However the next crunch is so many shops opening tomorrow. They'll be hoping there will be large numbers of customers flocking back into them. Personally I've got my doubts since I think people have got so used to not having them they probably won't rush back, with only the essential services like hairdressing doing well.
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I forecast that the authorities would mess up the second jabs and they have.

The total number of over 80s and essential workers is according to government 5.2 millions.

The number of people who have had the second jab is now 7.4 million, 2.2 millions above that, yet around here those of us in our late 80s are still waiting without a sign of an appointment, let alone the second jab. Obviously they are once again randomly going on to those in younger age groups.

Phoning special numbers is no good since they offer very distant locations to get the jab, so I'll just wait until they condescend to give me an appointment at my local health centre.
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