Brexit, for once some facts.
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I'm afraid we'll need to agree to disagree on this one 'flecc'. I take the view, 'When in Rome.....'.
Tom
Some people don't hesitate to speak their minds because they have nothing to lose.
Did you have to open your mouth and prove it?
By the way which side are you on today? (just for the record)
Yep, I get that, you don't listen to anyone.
But I do, very definitely, but this is no battle of wits between you and me. I never pick on an unarmed man.
Fleec these are your opinions based on a very recent cultural phenomenon in western Europe thinking I am saying recent, .. look at 1930 era films with the femme fatale wearing a veil . I recall my own mother going to dinner dances , horse race meetings and similar wearing hats containing veils . This would be up to early 1960s . Up to the 1980 most women would carry a small scarf for when going into church, as a mark of respect. No-one would have stopped them .This post religion viewpoint as expressed by you is of extremely recent origin
Have you discussed these views with Muslim women? In many societies, including our own, , it is the women who maintain the cultural norms over generations and police the behaviour of their menfolk. Many millions of women in middle eastern and other societies are scandalised by what they choose to believe as adulterous behaviour of westerners. Don't assume that it is a male originated practice. It may appear so to us, but appearances can be deceptive.
Like others I do have redline issues and for example would wish to ban the practice of genital mutilation in either sex, . But in these countries it is a practice ,in the case of fgm, by women on women at the insistance of women.
Indeed but it is being run by the Home office so the effects are negligible
I get the feeling you are doing much more than simply pointing out anything. It comes across to me as a desire to be rid of migrants from other nations in the UK. That notion comes across to me frequently in your posts.
Tom
Was this interview prior or post event? And then it would matter who she claimed to have had agreement with. It strikes me as unlikely that fox news would have made that error in their narrative. It would have suited them to claim she had been victimised.
Anyway I do not possess a string vest.
It does not to me Woosh, not in the slightest.
You can't please them all as the Brexit voters (not you of course as you didn't vote) Will shortly find out.
perhaps there is a reason for that, say for instance
Whatever anyone says to you goes in one ear and out the other because nothing is blocking traffic.?
But Danidl, the woman in question in this case was Le Pen, she wished not to wear the veil. The incident in itself mis proves your point, women are obviously pressured to wear the veil and by men, otherwise this story simply would not have arisen.
Its oppression , and very often with oppressed people they don't realise it themselves. The women are pressured to perpetuate the conditioning.
If your daughter married into the culture which beliefs would you expect her to adopt. Her own or those forced on her ?
And by Tom,s argument nobody in UK should ever be seen in a burkha, his argument of " when in Rome" is pure nonsense in modern culture.
Its freedom of choice both ways.
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Infrastructure announcement follows an aggressive campaign to woo UK businesses, urging them to “join the frogs”
Paris has ramped up efforts to lure jobs from London as Europe’s leading business hub post-Brexit after announcing a huge investment in its main business district, La Défense.
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he towers will create 375,000 sq m of new office space as well as new restaurants and co-working areas, Defacto, the organisation which is promoting the development, said on Wednesday.
Marie-Célie Guillaume, chief executive of Defacto, said, “Brexit represents a huge opportunity for Paris.
“With only a few weeks to go until Article 50 is triggered, we want to send a powerful message to businesses that are uncertain about their future in London,” Ms Guillaume said.
The infrastructure announcement follows an aggressive campaign by Defacto, urging UK businesses to “join the frogs”. Paris has been particularly keen to attract London’s financial firms, which fear the consequences of losing their passporting rights to trade freely across the EU.
On Tuesday Emmanuel Macron, a candidate in May’s French presidential election, said he wants British “banks, talents, researchers, academics” to move to France after Brexit.
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Brexit: Paris announces seven new skyscrapers as it steps up bid to lure London jobs
Infrastructure announcement follows an aggressive campaign to woo UK businesses, urging them to “join the frogs”
Paris has ramped up efforts to lure jobs from London as Europe’s leading business hub post-Brexit after announcing a huge investment in its main business district, La Défense.
The French capital hasn’t constructed any buildings that are taller than 100m for more than 40 years, but in a bid to attract financial firms it will now build seven new skyscrapers in La Défense by 2021.
he towers will create 375,000 sq m of new office space as well as new restaurants and co-working areas, Defacto, the organisation which is promoting the development, said on Wednesday.
Marie-Célie Guillaume, chief executive of Defacto, said, “Brexit represents a huge opportunity for Paris.
“With only a few weeks to go until Article 50 is triggered, we want to send a powerful message to businesses that are uncertain about their future in London,” Ms Guillaume said.
The infrastructure announcement follows an aggressive campaign by Defacto, urging UK businesses to “join the frogs”. Paris has been particularly keen to attract London’s financial firms, which fear the consequences of losing their passporting rights to trade freely across the EU.
On Tuesday Emmanuel Macron, a candidate in May’s French presidential election, said he wants British “banks, talents, researchers, academics” to move to France after Brexit.
You are quite wrong on this. I am a lot more attached to the continent than most participants in this thread.
OG
Keep trying your last insulting post was almost witty, well actually nowhere near but keep trying anyway.
Keep trying your last insulting post was almost witty, well actually nowhere near but keep trying anyway.
A western woman visiting a cleric in a Muslim dominated community choose not to wear a veil. She knew or should have known that it would cause dissent. There was a cultural norm at stake. The cleric would probably be distracted by what would have been perceived as a slight or insult.
Western women wear bikinis and less on beaches and nightclubs, it is the cultural norm, would it have been appropriate for that meeting?
Incidentally my understanding of the request to wear a veil goes back to menfolk being distracted by the beauty of the women from the time of St. Paul predating Islam by 500 years with elaborate hairdos as being a crowning glory.
Imagine if we had a referendum to kill off all the over 70's,the young may vote for that to cure the housing crisis,cure the NHS and social care funding shortfall and put some cash into their pockets before we all SKI ( spend kids inheritance)
If that was voted yes,would Theresa May say 'we have to go ahead it's the will of the people'
KudosDave.
I'm fully aware of all this of course, but recent doesn't equate to wrong. In many cases it equates to right, being born of enlightenment.
That is the case here.
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