A diesel car carting around a bloody great big battery, motor and reserve drive system... Or an ev with a generator.. There really is a great big ironic elephant in the boot with either.
Hybrid.. An amalgam of the faults of both perhaps.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Hybrid.. An amalgam of the faults of both perhaps.
Unfortunately tho the car and modern civilisationm are interdependent. Take away one and the other probably doesn't exist.
The car fed and motivated, literally and metaphorically, the commercial and hence economic development of Western (probably wortld wide) modern civilization. Look at Ford in USA, attracted thousands to work there and what did they buy with earnings.. Cars. The car industry fosters growth in steel, energy, electronics,... List is endless. Take away that driving force and chances are civisation remained in the 18th century. Roads, shops, retail, almost every industry, commerce and service there is owes some measure of thanks to the car and our desire to go places in one. Our shipping lanes transport cars , massive oil tankers built and filled with oil yo keep cars moving. Our roads and motorways, our towns and cities developed to accomodate...cars. Ice have for over 100 years been part and parcel of the car. Take them away and I wonder what remains. ++
It's quite a barmy argument to suggest we could enjoy lifestyles most do had car never existed. There is no other single item initiated such development in business,commerce and economies. I don't think we, d have modern civilisation without it. That's probably no bad thing but world wouldn't only be Ice /car less... Not sure there would many other industries.
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Agreed in the sense that we wouldn't have today's modern civilisation. We'd have had a different one instead, no doubt using vehicles.
Cars are not the only sort of vehicle and far from being only a benefit, they have been and still are a huge drain on society. They threaten the very future of the human race and advanced life on earth.
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Latest from both Kyiv and Moscow this evening
Unlikely but possible methinks
Russia starts arresting the military in Moscow. According to Ukraine's Defense Ministry's Intelligence Directorate, Russia’s National Guard and police have started arresting military personnel in Moscow.
The traffic is blocked in downtown Moscow, according to the intelligence report, and all military units in the city are on high alert.
Units of Russian Guards Elite, Dzerzhynskyi division, entered the city, - Chief Intelligence Service of Ukraine. Multiple arrests, detainments and blockings of military are reported.
“We see the escalation of the conflict between Russia’s military and law enforcement agencies, and it is getting out of the Kremlin's control," said Mykhailo Podolyak, an advisor to the President’s Office.
Well who knows? so many different versions of reality these days
Unlikely but possible methinks
Russia starts arresting the military in Moscow. According to Ukraine's Defense Ministry's Intelligence Directorate, Russia’s National Guard and police have started arresting military personnel in Moscow.
The traffic is blocked in downtown Moscow, according to the intelligence report, and all military units in the city are on high alert.
Units of Russian Guards Elite, Dzerzhynskyi division, entered the city, - Chief Intelligence Service of Ukraine. Multiple arrests, detainments and blockings of military are reported.
“We see the escalation of the conflict between Russia’s military and law enforcement agencies, and it is getting out of the Kremlin's control," said Mykhailo Podolyak, an advisor to the President’s Office.
Well who knows? so many different versions of reality these days
Currently rumour, counter-rumour, disinformation, misinformation, total ignorance all swirling round.
While on the bus today, I found myself watching the horizon for a blinding bright flash... and wondering how hard it would be to construct (brown) lead foil lined thermal underwear. Truss might push a red button or two, in a fit of hawkish neoconic zeal. She looks manic. Her eyes look to me, like those of a sadist.
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Hating gyms, I started looking into buying one of those for my home... but soon realised the base of my research cone would be as wide as it was, for which ebike conversion kit to buy - at the apex, it would have again ended up with a choice between some proprietary and closed system vs as yet to be identified cheapo Chinese and easy to repair model. So I gave up investing the time looking. One ebike-like object at home is enough to worry about.
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Exciting if true:
"Last week the Sunday Mirror revealed 70 no-confidence letters would be needed for backbench shop steward Sir Graham Brady to warn Ms Truss that her time is up.
MPs now estimate that threshold has been met."
www.mirror.co.uk
Of course, it'd be better for Labour if she remained.
"Last week the Sunday Mirror revealed 70 no-confidence letters would be needed for backbench shop steward Sir Graham Brady to warn Ms Truss that her time is up.
MPs now estimate that threshold has been met."
Liz Truss at risk of losing job if she presses ahead with benefits cuts
The Prime Minister's position hangs in the balance as less than 40 Conservative MPs would need to vote with opposition parties to threaten her future in the role
www.mirror.co.uk
Of course, it'd be better for Labour if she remained.
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A (no?) confidence vote is derigeur for PMs these days. Lizzy seems to be earning hers in record time, her boxes are still sitting unpacked in the hall at No10.Exciting if true:
"Last week the Sunday Mirror revealed 70 no-confidence letters would be needed for backbench shop steward Sir Graham Brady to warn Ms Truss that her time is up.
MPs now estimate that threshold has been met."
Liz Truss at risk of losing job if she presses ahead with benefits cuts
The Prime Minister's position hangs in the balance as less than 40 Conservative MPs would need to vote with opposition parties to threaten her future in the role
Of course, it'd be better for Labour if she remained.
Just get kettle out lads, will save some time.
Reaching point No 10 doesnt employ furniture removers rather Ryan Air baggage handlers. They've installed a carousel.
Ironic that the headlines are about someone else being a sadist!
Politics live: Cabinet minister faces questions as Tories told to rally behind Truss - and Gove labelled a 'sadist'
Politics latest: 'Strong signal' government considering social media restrictions for children
Deputy prime minister Oliver Dowden said Rishi Sunak was "absolutely right" to issue a warning on migration. He also did not deny reports the government is looking at restrictions to limit the use of social media for under-16s.
news.sky.com
Haven't read the story on that site - just wanted to quote a headline.
Why 70?Exciting if true:
"Last week the Sunday Mirror revealed 70 no-confidence letters would be needed for backbench shop steward Sir Graham Brady to warn Ms Truss that her time is up.
MPs now estimate that threshold has been met."
Liz Truss at risk of losing job if she presses ahead with benefits cuts
The Prime Minister's position hangs in the balance as less than 40 Conservative MPs would need to vote with opposition parties to threaten her future in the role
Of course, it'd be better for Labour if she remained.
Seems they have 356 at present. Take Truss herself out of the number counted making 355. So 70 appears to be 1 under one fifth.
(They had 357 until Friday!)
I hate the Mail:
'My biggest fight wasn't with Covid - it was against grandstanding Matt Hancock and the exasperating 'Blob'': Head of UK's vaccine taskforce KATE BINGHAM reveals the struggles and painful bureaucracy behind Britain's world-beating jab programme
Published: 22:02, 8 October 2022 | Updated: 22:02, 8 October 2022
www.dailymail.co.uk
And I know that the above promotes a book.
But Hancock doesn't come out well.
Matt Hancock 'joins line-up for Celeb SAS: Who Dares Wins' after impressing bosses
I think I might hate Hancock as much as the Mail.
'My biggest fight wasn't with Covid - it was against grandstanding Matt Hancock and the exasperating 'Blob'': Head of UK's vaccine taskforce KATE BINGHAM reveals the struggles and painful bureaucracy behind Britain's world-beating jab programme
- In June 2020, Kate Bingham faced an extraordinary ambush by Matt Hancock
- Bingham said she asked Health Secretary for advice ahead of Cabinet meeting
- When it came to committee discussion, Hancock 'traded in Dr Jekyll for Mr Hyde'
Published: 22:02, 8 October 2022 | Updated: 22:02, 8 October 2022
Head of UK vaccine taskforce reveals bureaucracy behind jab programme
KATE BINGHAM: As the head of the UK's Vaccine Taskforce, the last thing I ever expected was an extraordinary ambush by the Health Secretary, Matt Hancock.
And I know that the above promotes a book.
But Hancock doesn't come out well.
Matt Hancock 'joins line-up for Celeb SAS: Who Dares Wins' after impressing bosses
I think I might hate Hancock as much as the Mail.
Maybe not so popular if the horse had done what horses so often do...
cant get more green than that and you can eat it when the motor dies
it may be easier to extract CO2 out of the exhaust gases than convert so many of our cars to electric.
MIT engineers develop a new way to remove carbon dioxide from air | MIT News | Massachusetts Institute of Technology
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The device is essentially a large, specialized battery that absorbs carbon dioxide from the air (or other gas stream) passing over its electrodes as it is being charged up, and then releases the gas as it is being discharged. In operation, the device would simply alternate between charging and discharging, with fresh air or feed gas being blown through the system during the charging cycle, and then the pure, concentrated carbon dioxide being blown out during the discharging.
As the battery charges, an electrochemical reaction takes place at the surface of each of a stack of electrodes. These are coated with a compound called polyanthraquinone, which is composited with carbon nanotubes. The electrodes have a natural affinity for carbon dioxide and readily react with its molecules in the airstream or feed gas, even when it is present at very low concentrations. The reverse reaction takes place when the battery is discharged — during which the device can provide part of the power needed for the whole system — and in the process ejects a stream of pure carbon dioxide. The whole system operates at room temperature and normal air pressure.
A few issues.
Just what do you do with the carbon dioxide that is ejected?
A major issue with ICE is handling of oxides of nitrogen - not just carbon dioxide. And imperfectly burned fuel, lubricant, etc.
And while the tories fixate on themselves, there's a quite serious mortgage crisis meets recession quietly lurking closer. In USA they argue its inflation rather than debt fuelled and absolutely fine, and different from 2008Exciting if true:
"Last week the Sunday Mirror revealed 70 no-confidence letters would be needed for backbench shop steward Sir Graham Brady to warn Ms Truss that her time is up.
MPs now estimate that threshold has been met."
Liz Truss at risk of losing job if she presses ahead with benefits cuts
The Prime Minister's position hangs in the balance as less than 40 Conservative MPs would need to vote with opposition parties to threaten her future in the role
Of course, it'd be better for Labour if she remained.
How Bad Could the Next Recession Be? | Morgan Stanley
If history is any guide, an inflation-triggered recession would be less severe than one caused by credit excesses.
www.morganstanley.com
Other residues also need to be scrubbed off the exhaust gas before separating CO2.
recovered CO2 can be disposed off where it's more suitable to do so. You can pump it into the soil where it can be digested or freeze it for example.
This method shows us a promissing technique where CO2 can be removed efficiently using a small volume and relatively lightweight equipment. At the moment, your e-cars carry a 200kg-300kg kit to do just that: removing CO2 from the city to release it elsewhere.