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Jeremy, Just seen your post on this on endless sphere. It looks like the other chap who ordered this got the wrong controller too! Let's say I will be pleasantly surprised if a sensorless one shows up... Frank

That looks handy, John. I have come across these which go in the place where there is often a reflector on a rear rack. I've put them on most of my bikes and find they do a good job. Frank

That's almost exactly what I paid. I agree with your suggested pricing too. I think there would be great demand for someone who sold Tongxin kits at that level, or even £200, AND answered the phone! Those who have been around for a while may remember that my Tongxin kit has not gone the...

You did the right thing in insisting on your money back at an early stage! In some ways buying from a store which doesn't have any product knowledge is like buying on-line, as you don't have any back-up. As you say, though, at least you can go round and insist on what you want. At one...

The same eCrazyman mentioned above sells Suzhou Bafang motor + controller, throttle, etc for c£100 delivered to the UK. That doesn't include a battery. You wouldn't get the rack, the detailed instructions, and the back-up, but, put together with something like a Ping LiFePO4 from ebay, it...

I have only very limited experience of riding a Panasonic bike so am no expert, but I suspect that the Pro-Connect, stripped down or otherwise, would be pretty similar to your Agattu. I think it's the characteristics of the Panasonic system which dictate how the bike handles.

Completely agree with that. I think we must acknowldge that Mark has been pretty explicit about the market segment he is targeting, and (given reliability) his bike seems to meet the needs of that segment very well. That's part of the challenge of electric bikes - working out what...

Even more amazing - he's got his bike back! Lock still attached...

I think that's exactly it, Hal. It's the speed of the motor that is too low for John (Aldby)'s terrain, not lack of power as such. I hadn't realised the Cytronex was a 175 rpm; I thought it was the 190. That explains why he is averaging 13 mph rather than 15 - but with lots of unused torque...

John, Have you taken the Cytronex on any trips to the mountains? I think it would come into its own in hilly country, and you might not be getting the best of it in your flattish part of the world. Before I did my Tongxin conversion, I spent some time thinking about whether to go for a...

Stuart, that is exactly it. My Tongxin was high geared so I rarely got above cut-out speed, but riding with the motor switched off was as if there was no motor there.

I read that too and was similarly amazed that he'd chained it to a 2 foot bollard. What surprised me was that he'd had the bike for 6 years! If he takes that little care how he secures it, you wouldn't think it would last more than 6 days!

John, A very interesting post, providing helpful balance for those considering buying a bike, and making it more likely they will get the right one. I found this comment particularly interesting: I believe that is due to the frame geometry, in particular the wheelbase. A modern...

I agree with that John. I also enjoyed reading of your experience, and liked the way that you described it, and think it is a good addition to common body of knowledge. One thing that I note you did not do, but which I feel others who have received similarly good experiences have in the...

Good luck with fixing it! I have to admit I did something more mundane the other day when I adjusted the propstand on one of my bikes and saw it had scraped some paint off the chainstay. I put a bit of black tape over it!

That's an example of service which way exceeded your expectations, John. That's great, and I am very pleased that you got such a good result. Clearly the dealer, who you don't name but whose name I can infer from your new bike name in your tagline, understood what you wanted, realised it was...

I interpreted that as part of the rivalry!

Could you even insist they didn't use it, if you didn't also insist that the Torq users kept their bikes below 15.5mph? I think it has to be production bikes, used to their capabilities. Which means if you have a Wisper with a few spare 14Ah batteries, you might be hard to beat even if you...

I'm not sure it's that clear cut. I believe the Wisper is street legal, as long as the button is not pressed. I'm sure David looked into this during design. Then what about the Torq? Mr Ching says it assists to 16mph (and other ezee bikes I know will assist to 17 on fresh batteries). As 16...

In fact some bikes do have different top speeds for pedelec and throttle. On a de-restricted Wisper 905se you can get an extra couple of mph by using the throttle. Urbanmover, I believe, is the other way round. I think the reason for it, in the case of the Wisper, is that if they made the...