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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    perhaps, but how much of that is window dressing (after her advisor whispered to her that there's a bunch of xenophobic relatively impoverished nut jobs who fancy having a say in how their energy bills are calculated and voted brexit)
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    the expedient part of me thinks that's fine, there is another part that wants to kick Boris' head in.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    in a normal world, I'd positively hate May as prime minster (look at her home office record), in a post brexit world she's just fine, absolutely fine, but I agree with the caveat of actually seeing her true colours
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    hallebloodyluja! in the sense that a rudderless ship is better than one bent on self destruction
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    actually the time i take to post is formally part of time out in a job description in which i do more than its 37.5 weekly hours. Anyhieuw Brendan, I will leave you to the parrallel universe you inhabit in which you launch personal attacks on everyone, dont read anything, assume superior...
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    If you voted IN then here's a second chance for common sense

    yes, but its too bad they've taken control of the cockpit an locked the door, so to speak
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    apologies, i'm at work, the new hot management solution where i work is hot desking, this means running around betwene seeing patients and booting ten year old desktops with very little life left in them, hammering out a message and running off again, it makes for typos unfortunately
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    If you voted IN then here's a second chance for common sense

    as an immigrant, the whole way leave became about immigration makes me despair of teh average uk voter who voted leave. i dont think its physically possible to patronise a leave voter. eitehr they do not ahve teh capacituy to recognsie that facts show immigrants are a net contributuion to the...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    was listening to wesminster hour on radio 4 lat night and one of teh interviewees said something obvious, but to me interesting: essentially the UK - who's electorate isnt predominantly far right - now, as a result of cameron's attempt to appease his party's right wing - has a choice between two...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I don't know what's worse,a UK with trump styled politics or realising one shares an island with nearly 17 million souls who fall for that kind of crap.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Perhaps - i'm not a laywer, but practically i can see that her repuation has been if anything enhanced. But that's no thansk to leadsom - who tried to destroy it to cover her tracks. for me it's about teh way leadsom was prepared to do anything - defame; blatantly lie, reconstruct events - to...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    rightly or wrongly, i see it this way. in my line of work there are formal complaints every so often (we work with patients with complex difficulties). If someone makes an unjustified complaint to my boss about something run of the mill (perhaps they didnt feel adequately cared for, or waited...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    fair enough, what i really meant to say was that if nothing else tony blair's legacy is that personal integrity - within the broad sad limits as descirebd by OG in previous post - matters, greatly, in politicians. Aside from teh fact that all of thsi could have gotten very ugly for the...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    there is a verbatim audio recording of the entire interview online (ive listened to it). i bet teh journalist was relieved for that. there is a difference between suggesting an intecrview was slanted, and saying an interveiwer deliberately put words in ones mouth and minsinterpreted what one...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    i disagree. how would you have felt if you were the journalist. and you didnt have a record/transcript of the conversation. and you lost your job and got sued for defamation? suddenly not funny or unserious at all.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    aaarggghh. i dreaded that. why is it always teh worng peopel who get an infarct? that would retire him. god knows, unless he's already had one.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That wouldn't have been surprising. Perhaps even less damaging. Being prepared to destroy someone else's career/profession/livelihood as part of smearing a journalist in an attempt to lie/cover her tracks is pretty damning.
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    It is amazing how badly informed we were prior to the referendum

    Would agree,except for the fact that I thought George bush was the bottom of the barrel as far as american moral consciousness went and then trump came along..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    All of that will be great,or preferable to full brexit in the way gangrene is preferable to being decapitated. As that preferred outcome happens we will still take very serious economic damage. For no reason at all,other than boris and farages careers.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It was a bit like a mini watergate,with the cover up attempt doing more damage than the crime