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Sit down and pour yourself a drink Oldgroaner: I agree with you. Here's the thing though - do we get to have better government by giving powers away to government situated in Brussels - or do we get to have better government by keeping things close? I know what you think. You think...

The fact is - people didn't vote based on the facts alone - they never do. People make decisions based on how they feel way more than how they think rationally. Ask anybody in retail. So no matter what you think the facts of Brexit are - and no matter how much you argue for those 'facts' - in...

It's a sad sad day when a man can't use his ******* in an attempt to win an argument.

What if I'm being serious? You have to consider that a possibility.

Have a nice day Jonathan.

Excellent muse Jonathan. 'Balls' was - of course - meant metaphorically.

No I don't imagine you would. You and some others here call it recklessness and stupidity. And thus we have ourselves an excellent platform for a discussion.

This is how he reacts to the presentation of an actual fact. Like I said - if he can't correct his behaviour after being given the facts with such a simple example - how can one expect him to change his behaviour when a more complex situation is presented?

Er.... No. We 'come around' to disrupt your cosy echo-chamber. Which if I say so myself I think we do quite well. I remember a few months back this was wall-to-wall Brexit is the worst thing since England's 2-3 loss to W. Germany after being 2-0 up at half time back at the world cup some...

Very true. Given that he can't correct his use of the possessive form of 'its' - when the facts have been clearly placed before him (at least twice) - what chances are there of him changing his mind about as complex a subject as Brexit? Pretty much zero. Oh well. Group hug anybody?

True - I'm too busy correcting your grammatical mistakes.

Nice clarification in the NB there Flecc. I hope you're monitoring them closely. We own the rights to talk about Brexit.

Jove James Jove! Dummie.

It's its - not it's. That's the second time correcting you on that. More evidence that you don't actually learn from your mistakes. The rest of your nonsense requires no response - as it's nonsense.

Right, right, right, right, right and by gove....... right!

Yet more negative drivel from the man desperate to put the country down.

Probably. But this is the beat-each-other-up-about-Brexit thread so we're not allowed to talk about that here.

Another one with scant understanding of how the world actually works.

Because you make more money like that! Doh!!! Hence our wages (where we tend to manage things) are higher than in China (where they tend to make things).

You do talk a lot of b*****s. Ports are no where near running at capacity. And ships can be hired anytime you want.