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  1. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    There you go again - spreading fake news. We've already figured out (read Flecc's several information giving posts) that this isn't just (if at all) due to Brexit - but there you are prolonging the illusion that it is.
  2. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Sure. The one's that - like you - base at least some of their decision on how much Vit C is in there - you will be prepared to pay the extra (perhaps). For the others who just like the taste - they will probably go for the cheap stuff. Now in your Socialist paradise you'll have a man in a...
  3. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yeah. I know. I was already in a bad mood by then.
  4. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Right. Yes. My point (well one of them) - again for the millionth time (on this one) - is that if we decide to drop tariffs - particularly on products we have no internal production of (EG ORANGES - hi OG) - then we can get that stuff cheaper. But you're right that IS a political decision...
  5. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The NFU said that? Well knock me down with a feather. Of course they would say that! All their lovely kick-backs might end!!!
  6. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Oops.
  7. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    What 'promises' did he make in that blog? None. This is his concluding paragraph: "So establishing the UK’s WTO commitments won’t be quick but whether it will take more than, say, two years, depends on so many unknowns that it is impossible to tell right now. On each of the three tests — the...
  8. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    When in doubt - change the subject.
  9. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    One leaflet from one specific location and you claim this is what the entire 'Leave' ethos is all about. OG - you're an [removed by admin: OK so I've read worse and you're not the only one by a long shot, but can everyone please disagree with ideas politely and not be inflammatory by attacking...
  10. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You really do have this weird idea that people are rational creatures and buy things based on 'information' they can read on a label.
  11. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    What if we don't give a sh*t about how much Vit C is in our orange juice but buy it for the taste?
  12. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    HOW MANY ORANGE GROVES DO YOU KNOW OF IN THE UK? Dear oh dear.
  13. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I've made the argument many many times but you ignore it. My argument is simple. Free trade. Remove ALL tariffs. Let the market decide. Stop bailing out the farmers. Get our food and other stuff cheaper where we can. You ignore all this and don't engage.
  14. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Then people will pay extra for the high Vit C ones - or not. But. They will have the choice. Market forces.
  15. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Are you deliberately being thick? We won't charge duty on Spanish oranges as they will already be more expensive than we will then be able to get from other sources. The only line or argument - and one I thought you may pick (but haven't so I will help you out) - is that the government could...
  16. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Nev - you've obviously not read Fleccs response - read it: "There's an element of dieselgate in this, it's not all Brexit. Basically, after Nissan had received some sort of guarantee from the government, they announced that they would plan to build the new X-Trail version at Sunderland, in...
  17. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Latest poll:
  18. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    NO WE DON'T! What so many of you seem to miss - and you are doing here Flecc - is that IT IS UP TO US as to 'how expensive' that food becomes. To make an obvious point some may not understand: Countries don't charge tariffs on stuff they export - ONLY on stuff they import. We COULD have...
  19. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It also opened up markets and has been a strong proponent of trade - free or otherwise.
  20. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Like I say - try engaging with the argument itself rather than criticising the perceived source.