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So he benefits. So be it. All sorts of low-lifes may well benefit. Russia is a basket case. He is a mafia boss. Not much we can do about that.

Nobody. Why do you think the scared people all voted Remain?!!

Putin. You think this is down to him. Maybe you should come out with me and Dave and have a beer and forget all this nonsense.

I thought that might get your attention. Yes - I think on balance those that voted Leave were less scared. Of the two groups I think they were more independently minded and happy in their own skins. Closer to death. Thus less inclined to need external support - ie less on the attention...

Or an even simpler response: If they can't compete: Absolutely. End of.

Yup. There is a cost associated with the freedom we're supposed to be getting. It was never about the money.

Absolutely. Just like its OK to wipe out any number of other jobs that are not worth the value they proclaim to add. Who gains? The consumer! Joe Bloggs. Ordinary people. Fine if you don't agree - go listen to the National Union of Farmers and their 'I want my free hand-outs' lobbyists...

You're all of a sudden an expert on this huh? Only a few months ago you were voting leave and now you're a debt expert? ((((((you))))) Now. Debt it not bad. Credit is not bad. Credit is the blessing that enables us to use resources now with a promise to pay them back (backed by people who...

Where does he talk about self-sufficiency? Huh? He's saying we'd all get cheaper food (from overseas or whereever) - if we stop bailing out our farmers. Or our farmers would be more efficient. Nothing to do with self-sufficiency. Like he said (did you even read it thoroughly I wonder) - its...

It's nothing to do with Brexit. Longer term interest rates have to rise. I am talking globally and relating this to much longer term trends. For now we're safe. But for how long? Who knows.

Dave you and me should go have a beer one day. I think we'd get along just fine.

Just for you Woosh: https://www.continentaltelegraph.com/brexit/the-effects-of-brexit-on-farms-and-farming/

Interest rates going up has NOTHING to do with Brexit. Globally this is the trend right now.

Not if you have a decent credit score you don't.

Sure. And all Remainers are not spineless-attention-seeking-losers. But let's be honest. All spineless-attention-seeking-losers voted Remain.

Yeah - he's usually one of the more rational posters (within reason) - but that was plain dumb.

Boris is right. Why take her side? Because you already made your mind up! DOH.

So long as they can cover their interest payments - it's fine for now. Interest rates though HAVE to go up - the pension funds are getting killed so there is only one way for it to go. So it's obviously not a good idea having debt that is not on a (manageable) fixed rate of interest.

And they STILL don't get it! Staying in a 'customs union' IS NOT BREXIT! Doh. It's like breaking up with your GF and saying 'but we can still have sex yes?'. No! You can't still have sex!

Maybe you need to go back to school - and study something called 'statistics' - it's when you realise one example of a sample means 'fkuc all'.