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Nice you should mention railways.and ballast. Just before Christmas, I was at the local station waiting for my train, and noticed this activity on going. It involved 1 site engineer ,1 Dumpster Driver, 1 JCB Driver..the JCB being mounted on a bogey so that the power wheels of the JCB could...

Happy that you have. I have basically said the same thing any number of different ways,in what I hoped would be understood. I NEVER equated ability with literacy..that is a construct from 50 and now yourself. He used the word smart. What I continue to assert is that getting into the job...

Sorry Flecc, it might have helped if you had read what I had written . Not what you interpreted what I had written. For what is now the nth time to.. where n is some where like 6 , I said that illiterate people two and one generation ago, where better placed to to occupy places in society than...

To an illiterate person, it would be not different than finding oneself in a foreign country, with a different alphabet.

Again again and again you have missed the essential point I was making. I was not extolling the merits of academic education. All I was saying and continue to say is that without basic literacy, and the ability to even get into the short list for a job such as any of these is seriously...

There is an interesting aside in the Express website claiming that both Spain and Poland are planning EUExits.. The situation in Poland is diametrically opposite to their headline. The fact being that Judges on the Polish Supreme Court are WARNing their own Government ,that proposed...

More ot less ok, except that even for that job, you also need to pass an written entrance test. Because in your own inimitable fashion, you have described the job function of a care assistant. The other point is I was not ever saying that illiterate people are not smart.

Regrettably I live in a world in which this is real. Fortunately not in my family, but in my professional life I have encountered it. This extended riff started off when I suggested that in our youth, those people with extremely poor literacy were able to get on better and were at less...

If you cannot write or read and are male ,then the position is as I have stated. ..or spreading tar or.... Recall the recent case of" slavery ", linked with Irish itinerants and bullying unfortunates in England. Women have been traditionally able to get those cleaning jobs...but not with...

That illustrates very clearly the problem which the UK is now facing... I have not said there was not a gigging economy. What I continue to say is that one and two generations ago, the ability to be illiterate and non numerically competent was masked. Now there are LESS of those jobs now.

And the them were 15.8.. the difference being 1.2 , or if 600k had voted differently out of 38 million, the result would be a tie.. thats 5 . Football stadiums worth!.

That comment referred to an honours degree being required to drive the dumpster... . You are generally more analytical than that. The point I originally made, was that in my childhood ,and presumably also in yours, there were employment activities which people who had no functional literacy or...

Fair enough, but I think you made the wrong call on this one ..but of course you were not the only one. I suspect the damage that even a limited Brexit will do to the UK economy will be worse than a one term Labour government

Exactly I fully agree... .

Exactly.. maybe even by a full month before.

To the simple everything is simple and there is a simple solution .. usually wrong.

You need to be able to read these websites before you know whats available!. Kettles and pots. I made the committment that when you that is ..the UK leave with their Brexit ,then so will I . At present that is most likely the first day of Irish Spring 2021, when the Transition phase is completed.

I may as well give up on this one. I was not suggesting that the person who drove the truck needed an honours degree, and that "reducto ad absurdum" argument does not do you credit... Although I suspect that 50 might row in here and suggest it would be in media studies or social studies...

Whereas in the old days there were men walking with barrows and a brush and scoop and it was very safe..., Now public sanitation requires a driving license, A Driving licence requires a theory and visual test, so those without reading cannot compete. Care assistant once ment just a kind heart...

Flecc..I think rose tinted nostalgia might be occurring... ( Not the bit about the ruler..I was there also), but classes were routinely streamed, particularly post primary,but often in primary school. Even worse,those types of jobs, while they may need to be done,are being either automated...