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Can't argue they are cracking deals.

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I'm with Eddie on light weight efficent performing machines. And sub 20 kg is a must. It it's hard work to pedal then it hard for the motor to move.

You missed the reference to pikes peak.I got a number wrong but the first hub motor bike ever to finish the pikes peak race was in 2012. It was circa 128volt with 23amp max. It was still beaten by two mid drives but did beat the optibikes that had held the crown previously. I try to avoid...

What help do you need? The bike should be good and still under warrantee (in UK Law)

No PM recived. But it's not legal so I won't use it. There are others though who should see this as a good deal.

Misleading is also what I would call a short hill race result as a measure of effectiveness of motor design. The more watts avalable the higher the potential hill climbing speed. Hence a 11kw hub beating 1 kw crank drives up pikes peak. I try to look at overall design and efficency. Sometimes...

Welcome. Nice first post and review. I think you'll notice few full suspension bikes are happy at 20 mph. Well not the legs of the cyclist powering her anyway. Most road bikes are designed to run easier hence 20 mph is achievable. Try a BH carbon race if you want assist and 20 mph on the road.

But D8veh its a fake. You've told us often enough that new hub motors can climb any hill not like those crummy crank drives... It's obviously a fix it must be a bust mid motor in the picture. And the gears mean mid motors can climb hills at lower speed if you spin the pedals. No pedalling no...

If it was legal I would be interested.

It's highly unlikely that the insurers will investigate. Cwahs in a moral dilemma. He knows we all know what he did. If he says I sued then anyone of us could stich him up! If he keeps stum he might still sue, and possibly get away with it? Or just forget it. Unless he was at high speed the...

Col. If now one knows it's ilegal he gets away with it. But he could be done for fraud as well as the unlicensed vehicle issues. If they did find out.

Tom are you trying to bankrupt Hattie. First the Uno now this. Another excelent deal from you. They should go very quickly. When can we expect a torque sensing crank motor kit deal? Dave

Unfortunately the law says one motor only. So unles you had a motor driving a hydraulic pump witch fed a pair of hubs it's a no no. Or hub the rear and get a Cruze bike pedal drive to the front.

RobF How very dare you bring basic engineering principals into a handbag fight. A 1 watt mid drive will obviously beat any hub drive up a gentile slope never mind a real hill....

And Im with Tom vs KudosDave. Mid motor crank drives use the gears to climb unbelievably well ie Bath Without the burnout problems a really stalled hub motor can have on a long steep hill. So Bosch, Panasonic crank, impulse or BBS 01 are all excelent hill climbing beasts.

But Hatti has two red Ferraris doesn't she? Cheap kits don't pay well for new fast cars though

Sorry missed the link to the units for sale. There blurb only had hub drive I was suggesting that mid motors also existed. The lol is the website is so intuitive we both missed links! Any more missing links and we will have the creationists complaining.

Ok no easy identifiable prices. There are mid motor designs as well as hub. And your trade advertising on a site where other traders pay a fee to join.

Suzi for me. Can we start an Internet campain?