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Perhaps they don't actually need cut-out switches, just like Bosch and Yamaha.

This thread seemed like the right place to post this link about a cycle ban on a shared use path in the US. http://road.cc/content/news/188615-strava-data-used-ban-cyclists-trail

As far as moped racing goes I think the kids rounds are by far the most interesting.

They are very good, I also rarely ride with my thumbs wrapped around the grips, I've never had aching hands with them.

and you don't think that all the bloody fuss you keep stirring up might just be part of the nanny state, shut up and give it rest, you've gone way way beyond boring now. I'll stick you back on the ignore list.

I had a go up Winnats on a hub-motored bike today (thanks Bob) and then 2nd run was on my normal bike. https://www.strava.com/activities/565062132 Certainly away from Winnats itself the Juicy flew along very nicely with a low effort of input from myself, I had to work harder on my bike to go...

I have no idea what all the fuss is about given they only do 45 - 48 kmh.

That's an exceptionally steady ride, surely a normal bicycle would be faster wouldn't it?

Wow I think this could well be the only post of yours I've read fully, all the others and my brain just switches off after the first sentence.

This one for me.

your comparison.

One last try then, have you never seen a bicycle race. any discipline, road racing, downhill MTB? I don't require an answer.

Oh so very true, they're designed to go much faster. ...

No point telling me that, tell the people in this thread who think it's about the speed of bikes.

Sorry no, just send him a message on his youtube page. It's quite an oldish video now. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC18Pm0aYFqquK15H9o52aAA I had a feeling you'd know some of the tracks in that footage.

Meanwhile back out there in the real world MTB riders continue to ride at speeds in excess of any e-bike out there, pss Flud don't show it to your ranger friend he might have a heart attack.

The weather over there in Beverley is considerably better than it is here at the moment, it's snowing like mad here, a total whiteout.

I don't think that's the case, it seems to me that more and more people are looking at pedelecs as a sort of electric motor vehicle. We need a sticky post in this section, with the usual questions and answers, new members then quickly hone in on the types of bikes they should be looking at.

:eek: flippin heck.

All these developments could make that "which bike for me question" easier to answer. If the buyer isn't lazy we can at least discount two brands instantly.