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But that's neither yours or our decision flecc. Ukrainians have decided they don't want Russia taking any part of their country or dominating any of its citizens. It was a free independent country and is fighting to prolong that situation. People in Ukraine know much better than you or I as to...

Entirely avoidable... Agreed. If Putin is simply allowed to march into Ukraine unopposed. Then where?? And even if nowhere Ukrainians under a gangster regime with no self determination, no democracy and god knows what else.

No, because for the moment they believe his lies.. I wonder what they would think if they knew the denazification programme he has justified this on got 1.2 % of the vote in last Ukraine election. I wonder what they will think when they realize Russian forces are not liberating anyone, they are...

I suspect though Flecc, as I said when Ukraine first kicked off. (a point you said was wrong) is this is going to run and run. It was a water shed moment. Rightly or wrongly the entire free world has had enough of both Putin and his regime. This will not stop until Putin is either dead or...

I don't think Russia has the time this time flecc. Putin is doing his best to keep truth from population but its bound to fail at some point. Its why situation is more dangerous. Putin has at best another month to drive Ukraine to accept his conditions. Its reckoned over a million Russians have...

I like your mlaw missile idea. Mother in law missiles. Mine would have sorted Putin in a few weeks.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide#:~:text=Government%20policies%20have%20included%20the,forced%20contraception%2C%20and%20forced%20abortion. Seems Wicki doesn't agree Flecc. Good job Boris or Starmer don't try same.

China are King's of Capitalism now. Took the ball and ran with it. Sort of state centred mega investment. I believe their use of capital took more folk out of poverty in 20 years than rest of world did ever. But it doesn't justify their treatment of many groups.

That could be purely financial. Russia are renaging on many debts now. China are walking a clever line, are they backing West or Putin. Nobody actually knows yet.

Russian banks turning to deal and offer accounts in yuan. (Chinese currency) Putin will be popular, Russian currency becoming worthless. Not a good sign in some respects. Rampant inflation and collapse of German currency spawned Hitler. Chinese authority certainly isn't the benign character some...

Agreed.

I think thing is Danidl this subject is going to polarise opinions. I, ve come to conclusion things are best left unsaid . It's just too emotive. Think we all know what opinions we all hold and that collectively we all hate and detest the situation we now find ourselves in, with innocent people...

I, ve lost touch now but engine in mine was certainly Fiat based... Recognised quite a few bits from a Fiat 124 I, d had years before. And on another story... Honestly true. Used to be a member of a ski club in North of England... We had 2 slip ways about 70 yards apart.. Rolled up early one...

They did years ago, it was called a Niva. Brilliant off road but rubbish on it. Could get mine places no (standard) Landie could venture.. I loved mine.. Nobody else did though.

Apparently Putin has published a list of countries he feels have been decidedly unfriendly towards him recently, to say the least its quite an extensive list but missing Finland and Sweden?? Monaco even made it on, perhaps for not prosecuting the Ukrainian mechanic who opened sea cocks on his...

Goodness OG, wish I could draw like that. Its marvelous matey. And timely.

Yes, you now use the word Independant. That answers your own ludicrous argument. I, m not discussing it with you anymore Flecc. It's pointless. You are wrong. But out of interest please explain what you mean by "an independent state"... Is that one where Russians can phone up and demand vast...

Flecc, that is complete supposition on your part. And, even if it's the case Putin has not the slightest right to take Crimea in 2014 and now the parts of Ukraine he desires. It's as though if he asks politely for the land he wants Ukraine should just say"oh ofcourse Mr Putin, exactly how much...

And why Polly finds it amusing I have no idea.

That's a ridiculous thing to say. The only person wanting this war (military operation BTW) was Putin and a few of his friends. Nobody in here has expressed slightest desire for this unnecessary war and its totally unacceptable for you to suggest such a thing. Actually its a disgraceful thing to...