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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    My dad in early 60s had a petrol fueled Primus. (or he inadvertently used to run it on petrol) Even as a kid I thought it unbelievably dangerous. One of my child hood camping memories was watching dad launch mentioned stove into a (fortunately) nearby river... Was like that scene in From Russia...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I, ve agreed with that because its all basically true... But you fail to accept a) that very partioning of the country you talk of was one of many outcomes from France and its 1945 incursion back into Vietnam B) Irrespective of any of that, the major contribution to prolonged violence throughout...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    1960? You tell me.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You can go where you want with sausages... Must be free range tho. Kids won't know what a Primus is... Something out a science fiction film.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Stats coming out of SA suggesting it is much less severe??? Or are they saying that to open up travel and put us all in same boat. (which we are anyway) AZ saying they have Omicron vaccine at trials stage.??
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Well don't try and down play the part French played in the hostilities. They were instrumental in them. And, yes, I, ve read quite a bit about Vietnam war(admittedly quite an old take on it now (Ken Burns, book from documentaries) ... But I haven't any bias one way or another. You seem to see...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    God go with you my son.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Notice, the French needed our help to reinvade Vietnam. Simple fact is France with our unedifying help restarted the colonial attitudes of Wealthy countries exploiting weaker ones, even after fighting 2 World War pretending to be against such behaviour. The US were dragged into conflict in their...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Wasn't me that one Gov.. I, ve done my fair share of preaching, stony ground obviously, but me telling folk to stay relevant. Don't think so.. That would be like you telling folk to be pleasant. Go on, try it. BTW, being pedantic.. It wasn't precolonial.. That was the problem. France wanted...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    JA is chopping down a couple of Gigawatts of wood for his burner... He's cleared an area size of Wales in last month... Or was that Bolsonaro in Brazil..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    In 1945 the Vietnamese under Ho Chi Min planned on independance as Japanese left. (after surrendering post Hiroshima) The Japanese completely vacated Saigon. The Vietnamese actually copied the American constitution with guarantees of democracy. The French had been kicked out by the Japanese in...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yep, feeding wood burners takes some effort... All that lovely smoke tho.. Great. We had a 38kw wood burner in France, heated all street, let alone our house... Amount if wood it got through was ridiculous... A stere in 2 weeks easy.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Only thing is they caused Vietnam in first place. Just left US to try and sort it after their failed Colonial efforts. (ie Walking into vacuum when Japanese left/were ousted) JC must have missed Gary Cooper in French Foreign legion.. Besides he was being JC... Flippent.. You take things very...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It's just raining a bit at moment.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I, ve agreed with this but don't agree any PM would have followed.. A good one would not have.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It was telling world Tory policies can be seen as "socially" acceptable.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Just the tiny elephant in the room... Blair took us to war on a great big fat lie. Were it not for that oh so tiny indescretion, think he, d still be in power.. And Starmer, with both his baggage (CPS woke tendencies) and his oh so uncomfortable presence, never mind his rich background post...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/we-failed-grooming-victims-law-chief-keir-starmer-admits-9dwd9brflvm Think we are starting to agree on something. Starmer isn't popular and his stance on not prosecuting alleged child abusers is in conflict with his view on prosecuting Boris over historic...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No, I am not. I, m pointing out Starmer's failings in his attempts at being in opposition. Ranting about alleged, disputed, none prosecutable historic offences is not a priority. And as I keep telling you I am not defending Boris, he doesn't need helping from Starmer's attacks. But, I agree, I...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I actually agree with that now, but having a go at him about a party sure as hell won't bring him down. It's like a bloke has just driven up M1 at 100 mph, left a trail of incidents behind him, folk jumping out of his way as he speeds through town, does a hand brake turn outside a school and...