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Brexit is a minor sideshow in scheme of things. Without Brexit it would have been AUS agreement. Had we been in EU no doubt we would not have been involved, in fact we, d probably be supporting France but secretly laughing.. As it is we can laugh out loud... We gave up trying not to upset Macron...

I don't think that. I think NATO is part of problem. It's allowed Europe to exist and be defended without EU bureaucracy having to think about it. Yes, I agree its suited the US, promoting Russia as enemy etc... But without NATO all these disparate EU countries would have had to have a united...

If EU had a mature military presence I could agree with that. As it is it is utterly powerless. Even its own prominent members are unwilling to hand over any aspect of their individual military control to Brussels. They should have been sorting this since the fiasco in 07... EU is between a rock...

And where does that leave the EU, don't think Putin will be sending delegates to Brussels in our life time. (actually my grandkids life time) (post crossed with flecc)

Yep, suspect NATO is fatally wounded.. Danidl That takes nothing into account about the Geography, Politics, Alegiencies, and wether French would actually help in the region. How many Nuclear Subs does France own let alone patrol in Pacific with. How many times do I have to repeat, the way its...

Yep, but we aren't talking about bikes, we are talking about a Nations security... So, as I, ve said all along... Wrong but understandable. Imagine Australians turning to France in its hour of need??? What can French do... Bring it up at EU? It's not just the physical submarines, it's a...

I said from start that was wrong but understandable. And you confuse the issues. France can not feel any annoyance towards USA, or shouldn't, they are supplier. Its like you grumbling at another bike supplier for supplying a bike that actually suits customer rather better than yours. The fault...

I used to enjoy a spliff in my younger days, frees ones imagination.

The headline says it all. No real content.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/09/21/sulking-olympic-sport-france-would-win-gold-every-time/ I thought Woosh and Danidl would like this..

It would, NATO shop in US.

Totally agreed around his recent posturing, only normal with elections coming up. Wether he said it or not isn't that important, it was first muted by Merkel for him to do so a few years ago but any complaints.. Take up with Express and Telegraph.. Neither of whom seem to me to have imagination...

And the Australians... Why have they just aligned themselves away from France and to US?

I agree with that.. Apart from Corbyn could have done better. He couldn't. He was and is utterly useless, and he is main reason we have Boris and this shower..

There is a massive difference there OG. Clue is in the name. The Roman Empire. All the disparate armies, amongst them Celts, Picts, Gauls, Parisi.. Pretorean, etc etc were commanded by Rome and by Romans. Not 27 separate states but one unified one. But, it might work, but it certainly isn't even...

I have severe Atrial Fibrillation. Keep having varying procedures to cure it, which work for a while. Then it inevitably returns... Shortness of breath, tiredness, fatigue. (walking up stairs can be a fecking strain) But the one thing that has kept me mobile, out and entertained is Haibike in...

Agreed.. Covid has played its part. Suspect Brexit has too. Have we ever had a government interfere more in our lives than this one? Boris might have intended to have small government, less tax, less interference but its not worked out that way. It always seems ironic to me that many supporters...

Could be.... But look at what's happening to IHT, National insurance, Public Spending, NHS... Certainly not small government (or even Tory) policies... Its the most socialist Tory government in history... Its actually what's making it so difficult for Labour... They are out labouring Labour...

Times have changed. This is largest Government in modern history and is raising taxes..??? You are right historically and politically... But not presently.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/09/21/emmanuel-macron-may-offer-un-seat-push-eu-army/ Danidl Totally agree re Express... Telegraph and lots of others running same story. Yes, they all print BS much of time but Express claiming Macron relenquishing his French seat to become an EU one...