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  1. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Hang on you are being a little hard on yourself, how many times have you cried out about the failures of the Labour party and wanted a better on, yet now call yourself this? "left wing loony tune clowns on here will see it differently. " And by the way, thanks for the new word, you should...
  2. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Since when did you indulge in intelligent reasoned investigation? let's take that first remark of yours "Saying 126,000 died because of this Govt's handling is utterly ridiculous." The Government is responsible for the Health and Safety of the population Compare that with New Zealand And you are...
  3. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Guilty as charged. Stupidity is a hateful condition, and when the consequences are inflicted on me by these people. Guess what, I don't actually hate them, just despise them. Glad to help clear that up, and of course "Its a long long list OG.. and my summary is far from exhaustive. It goes on...
  4. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    First step back UK steps in with 11th-hour extra £250m to stay in EU research scheme Government commitment to Horizon Europe fund averts immediate threat to science, say universities
  5. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Well it has been an uphill struggle, akin to get a message across to some individuals living in an inverted parallel universe, and possessing the cognitive ability and memory of an average gnat Great fun :D
  6. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The art of not meaning what you say, Or is it meaning what you say Or perhaps not saying what you are saying. Or as Yoda would say "PM material this man must be" For a moment there I thought I was listening to Zlatan! o_O This fella has the sort of style right wingers love Tory council...
  7. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Wrong again My stance is anti the incompetent and corrupt Government of the UK If I was anti UK I would have voted for Brexit like others on here did. :cool:
  8. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I recommend you try to understand my posts, it will save wearing out your fingers, and these boring sermons that keep showing you never even try to comprehend them
  9. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It must still be April 1st Senior Tories join Jeremy Corbyn to oppose Covid passports ahead of trials More than 70 MPs on right and left oppose domestic use of certificates, as testing pilots are planned for football matches What an odd world we live in
  10. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Clearly you are not capable of understanding that no one on here is saying that the AZ vaccine shouldn't be used, on;y that where losses are suffered in it's use, they should be investigated and remedial action taken, not as you prefer their lives treated as disposable. But you make out they...
  11. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And this continuous anti anything to to do with France is frankly appalling. No one is suggesting to stop using the vaccine on here, and since we have left the EU, what they do we have no say in do we?
  12. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yes they have died There is more going on than we are told? Quite probably if you say so, I didn't. And yes these are recorded as happening after vaccination and the reason for deaths noted. And then this "You are simply speculating, reading into data what you want to believe because it suits...
  13. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Actually you never referenced your comment to mine with JHC did you by quoting him. And you did invent the female persona of "Susan" What I was reminding him, and apparently you missed it is that the majority of those who have died after vaccination didn't die of blood clots, and a far higher...
  14. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Who was debating that with you? I wasn't You really must get a grip Talk about losing it, first you invent a woman, then an argument with me.
  15. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The biggest threat is the attitude of people who find ways to praise this Government after the debacle they have resided over. And that goes for their tame experts too. There will always be dangerous crackpots that vote for liars, cheats and people who rob the public purse, not to mention make...
  16. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Unless of course you , or someone you know becomes a victim eh?
  17. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And this April fools day photoshop spoof :D
  18. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The Daily Mail are having another pop, this time as Johnson's latest squeeze Boris lover in Tory expenses 'abuse' claim: Carrie Symonds forced to quit £80k Tory HQ job over 'poor work' and accused of costing party thousands in improper expenses Since this is on today's copy why have they re...
  19. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I believe you, thousands wouldn't:D
  20. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Well done, you passed the point at flank speed as usual I like Fleccs posts, they are good Unlike your sermons! :D