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  1. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No it isn't! the worry is that the new variant copes and defeats the Vaccine in it's weakened state between doses , and can over come the vaccine altogether
  2. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Your problem is you don't know the difference Between Intelligence And Wisdom Education may hide the fact and frequently does, that few people are capable of both. For example
  3. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Panic and blame the EU is a pretty dead cert
  4. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So you say, yet the manufacturer having invested billions in designing the product states it isn't and can't be manipulated by the Leave Campaign, Sorry but this is just your take, there are opinions that differ from your so called experts "Anthony Fauci, President Joe Biden’s chief medical...
  5. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You've done it again! will you never stop this assuming my reactions are the ones you think they should be? "You are hailing a system which at best has protected one eigth of ours. Give it a rest OG. " At no point have I hailed any countries vaccination system Give it a rest Zlatan And do you...
  6. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Something that will Cheer Farage up no end! National Crime Agency (NCA) branch operations manager Chris Hill said: "People smuggling networks move migrants in both directions across the border, threatening the security of both the UK and our European neighbours, but also putting lives at risk...
  7. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The whole program has been a case of relying on luck at every point and still is, as we don't know whether the extra delay between doses can allow a dangerous variant to develop. For that reason the numbers half injected which simply increases the number and hence the probability of that...
  8. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I criticise what they do wrong, whereas you praise it, I wonder why that is? And it fact that is exactly what they did by ordering too much, when the manufacturer only had enough to partially supply us, so cut supplies to everyone else
  9. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Oh Dear Just a simple question really Hasn't anyone thought of investing billions in building new vaccine production and research facilities, rather than leave it to private companies? Or is turning a profit simply more important than saving lives?
  10. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Just repeat what he did last time and balls this wave up too? perhaps his ambition is to try for 200,000 ?
  11. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Interesting according to the Government this "Occasional" situation runs into thousands, and they don't actually know how many.
  12. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Nice try
  13. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Precisely! we should have stuck to the instructions and ordered sufficient to hold enough stock to cover the second jab on time. And if necessary invested the money (as wasted on test and trace) to build new manufacturing facilities
  14. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    From the Times Boris Johnson repeatedly resisted a second lockdown ahead of second wave in the autumn, even after all the devastation of the previous six months. More than half all Covid deaths have happened since then.
  15. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Lest we forget And yet people voted for this dangerous nut case
  16. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Actually from the latest information only the ones physically able to get themselves to a vaccination centre. There is supposed to be a home visit service, which is currently about as effective as the test and trace program
  17. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    There isn't much point in trying to explain further, is there, when you have no intention of listening?
  18. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    What is also clear is children actually do catch the virus and pass it on
  19. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    How Pathetic can this Brexit Religion get? Which Tory Donor has been spaffed a couple of Billion to supply the flags on the basis of telling cheap towels for wiping down muddy dogs?
  20. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You really should actually read my post which was "Yes we only have another 150% to vaccinate and it's done (ish) " Tell me where does it mention making comparisons? It doesn't it's simply a statement, you made up the idea of comparisons, regardless of my saying it wasn't a comparison with any...