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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That might or might not be the case but it's irrelevant to the point of discussion. Flecc holds the opinion, as seemingly you do, that the government have caused or are responsible for the death toll. Holding that opinion is fine but you can't hold that opinion and then go on to say the...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Rather a strange stance for you flecc. You argue Boris and Co have been over protective?? Can't see how that works.. Boris should have had more relaxed attitude to lockdown but blame him for the deaths we, ve had?? Don't supply a link to a previous explanation, it didn't make sense last time.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Don't think my opinion matters OG. The priority for under 30s is not particularly saving lives but keeping infection down. The warning from Ferguson is just noise, obviously Mhra are thinking about it but I do think this brand of media scaremongering is part of problem. If Mhra stop vaccine for...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    OG Even the Independant quotes Channel 4 as source of info, via Ferguson. He, s the one who predicted 500,000 deaths then decided to destroy his marriage in public. All Mhra has said is that its under review, along with everything,continue administering the jab. I suspect they may target Under...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Seems Channel 4 had something to do with rumour about stopping AZ for under 30s. MHRA have issued a statement simply saying its use will be continued.. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/apr/06/medicines-watchdog-says-no-decision-made-astrazeneca-jab-for-under-30s Ferguson again??? Risk...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    At least I know what the words mean. You hadn't a clue what " sentience" meant. You thought they started with capital letters and ended with a full stop. And, I have an excuse. English is my second language. What's your excuse? Oh, yes of course,mad as a fish.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Agree with that flecc but what about football matches, working, going to pub, socialising and kids going to schools. Going for a run at lunchtime won't stop anyone getting it sat next to an infected person all afternoon.. Think you, ll find I agreed with those sentiments to a point all along. I...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No fat folk in Vietnam. Probably why they have coped so well. Swadlincote is centre of universe for obese.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    There are changes coming. Same in Germany.. I suspect in general both their societies are even more negative about government's handling of covid than UK is.. There aren't many saying same as OG in UK.. But Pen is making more noises about how good EU could be, so things are changing. The anti EU...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Stop making yourself look silly. You aren't really. You just make daft statements and then feel obliged to justify them. You simply can't just count the number of infections and say highest is the worst affected. It's a bit more complicated than that OG.. But, I agree situation in Brazil could...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Could be Flecc. But can you imagine the furore if Johnson had had a very relaxed attitude to lockdown etc and we, d had 150k deaths... Or even the ones we, ve had. I can't see how a more relaxed attitude could have saved lives, but you are right the cost would have been less.. I really think we...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You are misusing sentience,which is ability to feel emotions etc. Nothing to do with reasoning,which is appropriate for your posts. Using big words is usually a sign of thick people trying to look clever, using them wrongly just shows them to be misinformed into bargain.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Split personality OG. We often argue, so when either make good points why shouldn't they support other. Arguing with you is far more fuiile. And as JHC points out neither of us actually reply to ourselves on here. You, ve made a habit of it for years now. I, m still waiting for your apology over...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    What is his fake Eastenders accent all about?? . So, Chainring, you, d rather take notice of this moron than Patrick Valance and his pals... Says it all... Personally wouldn't have a conversation with the man, infact he seems type to cross road for if you see him approaching. Folk like that...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Rather like talking to yourself. Don't you.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Fair point, I don't think it's even a country.. Definitely European mind. Does seem Europe has been particularly hard hit. But as you say perhaps a reporting issue. Does make you wonder how France has worse figures than Mexico. Couple of years ago we visited India (Goa) and Vietnam. How Covid...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Totally agree, think there is lots of under reporting world wide. I suspect Brazil, Mexico and a few others are far worse than numbers suggest. It seems developed /EU countries have similar standards of reporting so for comparison purposes they are worth while. Have a friend living in Thailand...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I know it's weekend but only 10 deaths and 3500 cases today... Let's hope it stays of that order...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    My Suzan persona is much admired. Not quite universally... I, ll have a word, see if I can get her to wave to fans..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Goodness, you and yours have had lots to think about lately. Hope all goes well irrespective of our differing views. Puts things in perspective. Don't think the concerns around AZ vaccine are worth your while to worry about... But I, m not in your shoes. I wouldn't even be going there... We...