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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It's the goals which are lacking in reality. It can't happen. Ecars just aren't good enough yet. Manufacturers will change when they realise sales are being hit. I know loads more people who couldn't go electric than those who could... Or want to.. I know only too well the way governments are...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    We, ll see. I don't think it can happen. Where is all the required infrastructure? They are doing so because they have been told. When folk realise ecars don't solve problem it will change. Too many folk can't go electric without massive changes.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So, in one sentence you dismiss everybody who travels over 150 miles to take part in a sport or something. Yep, I can see how your car works for you but we aren't all in your situation. Daughter, local drive every day. Electric would be fine. Come weekend she has to launch boat. She, s using a...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That's a brilliant solution. Buy a Tesla and sit in front room. Look, I love driving mates Tesla. And most other electric cars I, ve driven have an immediacy often lacked in many cars. In some ways they are great... But they do not solve our transport issues, do not represent the green...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yep, agreed, he had to be mad to buy an electric car. We all told him but he has more money than sense and he bought Tesla convinced it would out accelerate his Porsche (he, s a garage owner). Which it could... For about 15 minutes, after which warning comes up... "Battery overheating".. Slow...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You, ve bought into the propoganda selling them. If you live in or near a city, I agree they are fine... But all folk I know do many short journeys with quite occasional longer ones. Holidays, weekends away, events etc. Just explain how one would suit any of my mates doing weekly round trips to...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Well we'll see over all that but none of it means rejoining. Rules emanating from Brussels and a complete strata of redundant Governence has just slipped into history books. Thankfully.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The article posted the results of a survey in State involved. 20% of ecar owners went back to Ice. How is that silly? We are years away from infrastructure for even a quarter of us to drive electric cars. You are in same dream as flecc. They are as yet a non starter for 80% of drivers.. Mate has...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1431420/brexit-news-fishing-fisheries-eu-news-commission-von-der-leyen-boris-johnson-macron
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Well he is hopeless but better than Micron so let's hope he does. He couldn't be worse could he?? Failed EU negotiator, was involved in disastrous vaccine roll out. Perfectly qualified to replace Micron.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1403361/Brexit-news-France-EU-European-Union-BBC-economy-Rishi-Sunak-budget-latest-vn French think differently Flecc. "Oh, but that's the biased Express" Cuts both ways Flecc.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Like the article I posted other day you enjoyed destroying.. The point in that was the results of survey where 20% of ecar owners decided to go back to ICE. Only difference I didn't call you bigoted over your silly response. Point was 20% went back to ICE, you homed in on slight misuse of power...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    In the Guardian... Spotting a pattern here yet? By potent do you mean impotent. Its hardly earth shattering is it. Barnier is upset with UK /Tory MPs. No sh!te Sherlock.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Apologies, my reply to this ended up in with quote. Worldometer gives current active cases.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Wouldn't be many left. Perhaps all the moaners should leave instead. Far fewer of them.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Rubbish. I know the concensus on here is that Government are to blame for all the bad aspects yet can't take responsibility for any of the good, but then again if folk on here had chance they, d bring back capital punishment and first lucky winner would be Boris... But fortunately the vast...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Boris' mistake was initially saying there would be no border. You don't have to think about it long to know full well once UK leaves EU there must be a border, probably at the behest of EU more so than UK. Singling Boris out is inaccurate, the situation is such that there must be a border. DUP...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I was talking about items discussed on here. The Centenary has not been mentioned and it seems to me many in Ireland look for reasons to throw petrol bombs at each other. Whatever has happened doesn't excuse the behaviour we see there. Its like blaming Glazers for idiots inside Old Trafford...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Not too sure, heard wife talk about curtains, furniture, wall paper and other sh! te from place. Probably done us all a favour and closed. Boris is going nowhere... Well back to his nicely wall papered flat which he probably contributed to about same as I did to our decor. To be honest all this...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Kettles, coffee and wall paper. What has happened to this thread? Its like going to Debenhams with wife. Come back and argue OG.