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  1. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Ah well I will admit it was good and original :cool:
  2. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Thank you, when we need humour from the idiot fringe we will let you know. My post you so object to was in fact simply a listing of facts, but then you actually voted for Brexit didn't you? How's that going by the way?
  3. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Ok! the numbers are impressive so long as you don't mind how much is being gambled to save time. 17/04/2020 A date when we ordered a vaccine, waived the liabilities of the manufacturers, and despite them saying it would be sold on a non profit basis, managed to pay 10 times as much as the EU per...
  4. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It certainly isn't, remember my post about the donations members of both major parties accept from the "Friends of Israel"? Oddly Corbyn wasn't on the list :D
  5. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Boris having lunch with everyone in Scotland that likes him
  6. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Latest news https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.01.27.427998v1 Neutralization of spike 69/70 deletion, E484K, and N501Y SARS-CoV-2 by BNT162b2 vaccine-elicited sera
  7. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Re the terms of Contract on Covid Vaccines Not quite so cut and dried as we are being led to believe
  8. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Queen Elizabeth 1 made quite a profit in her investment in El Draco When Drake set off in 1577 it was probably with the intention of plundering Spanish ships and possibly fighting a route to the Spice Islands of the East Indies. It was a dangerous voyage. Only one ship, the Pelican, which was...
  9. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Poor devils, are they missing out on the Roubles your favourite party coins in?
  10. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Historically it is more the case it came into existence to finance piracy on the high seas At least it could be argued, it fulfils it's original purpose:cool:
  11. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It is indeed a monumental cock up. Which would not have happened had we remained in the EU. Which is worse? their cock up or ours? have we given a vaccine to the over 65's that isn't good enough? the Germans still think so. And lets be fair we are also chancing our arm on ever getting the 12...
  12. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So Boris is visiting Scotland, I wonder if he will recite this poem he penned in his Spectator days It will go down "Bigly"
  13. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Actually the main investment was from abroad: if you want to give credit anywhere give it to the people who invented it, not some silly flagwaving Little Englander superiority being a factor That is childish I posted much earlier we should have invested the full cost of developing the vaccine...
  14. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    There was a program last year on the BBC where they had procured a sample of the actual skin of the Hindenberg and had eye witness statements of Orange flames rather than the blue you would expect from burning hydrogen, they applied a high voltage spark to the sample and it burst into flames...
  15. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    "Is investing" we only invested a pittance typic right winger aren't you? Assuming we actually parted with any money of course, there are so many right wing lies around after all "Typically socialist. Had your vaccination now advocating giving everyone else’s away. Bravo. " Did I advocate giving...
  16. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The statement is clear enough "is investing" why are you misreading it?
  17. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It might amuse you to know In 1931, it was decided to sell R100 for scrap. The entire framework of the ship was flattened by steamrollers and bought for less than £600 by the Zeppelin company and they used it to make the framework on the Hindenberg Which is a remarkably sad end for two...
  18. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    here you are The EU is investing €336m (£297m) in AstraZeneca in return for 400m doses of its vaccine, the first 100m of which had been expected before April.
  19. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That mouth of yours has disconnected from the brain again
  20. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Your evidence is incorrect 2:) The EU invested £297 Million pounds on the vaccine the UK invested £65.5 Millions via the Vaccines Task Force The EU has every right to feel hard done by, but then right wingers are easy to wind up and mouth off aren't they? they don't bother to check the...