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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So you want the deal then? Or you want a better deal? Or you now want to remain? Oh, yes we have moved on. I want the useless feckers at Westminster to do their jobs. Make a decision and get on with it. Do the deal or forget it. Like Smog says. No such place as Limbo, its pergatory for us all...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That is probably all correct but water under the bridge now. What our MPs decided yesterday, if I, m correct, is that yes they agreed to leave under a deal that is now non negotiable, but needs negotiation to finalize our ultimate relationship with EU, but not just yet. Risking the possibility...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Ground Hog day... Neverendum. The silly feckers should stay in HoC until they say " Yes" or" No". Accept the deal or forget it. This is the worst possible scenario, not in, not out, dithering indecision. Drifting along with crew unwilling, incapable of choosing one tack or another. All arguing...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Ground hog day.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I was neither having a go at you or discussing the deal. I was saying Bercow is a fool and stopping or delaying vote has not helped either side. It has simply prolonged the stupid argument, which some seem to revel in. If EU grant another extension we could go on like this for another 3 years. I...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I am neither supporting or writing off BJ's deal, I, m criticizing all of them for this situation and especially so Bercow for stopping vote on deal. Chances are it would have failed. I don't think it helps when leader (I use the word sarcastically) of opposition writes off the deal before he, s...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://mol.im/a/7598349 Oh, yes ofcourse OG Bercow is trying to avert disaster. Read all the article before you remind me its DM...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Part of the reason you are so correct is because of the attitudes of so many of our politicians. Can you imagine the MD of a major company, a top judge, leading surgeon actually behaving like these idiots actually whilst doing their jobs. Pretty sure I, d have been sacked for doing anything...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1193646/brexit-news-john-bercow-boris-johnson-eu-deal-tony-benn-impression Have they all gone crazy in HoC? WTF are they doing? What an advert for UK.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    He is asking for an extension prior to voting on his deal tho. That could easily make a world of difference,especially so if they refuse. He would go to parliament with no deal or his deal being only options. The EU do want the money but they want it done asap. Hence why I think there is a good...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    His best hope is EU not granting an extension. If they do chances are,.... you are right.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    He will never be taken to court. An awful lot of folk can see exactly why he has done all this. Its all a sideshow. The act of any significance is EU deciding wether to grant an extension. BJ is hoping they dont, in which case he, s won. If they do he could still win vote. Its been to his...
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    Commuting with a badass dongle..??

    My badass dongle seriously affected range. I stopped using it for that very reason. I like to use highest mode all time but hover around 15/16mph.Drop below and motor kicks in, kerp it above and you are doing work.. Like this I can get 32 miles off road. (paths around Lady Bower, Derbyshire) Put...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    EU will refuse an extension BJ will then confront parliament with a vote on his deal or No Deal,which by that time will be the only alternatives. I wonder which will get through. Its all been planned, and I suspect with EU knowledge. Time will tell.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That's fair enough OG. ERG supporting BJ is irrelevant to amendment. My explanation for amendment is only a theory but no other explanation benefits anyone? Please explain one that helps anyone? BJ had nothing to lose. If they give an extension he, s exactly where he was last week. If they...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Its not hard OG. Macron and others were talking of refusing extension. Having extension refused before a vote on his deal would be perfect forcBJ. It makes more sense than your convoluted explanation. Why on earth would EU renage on deals already agreed and signed by them. Boris knows full well...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Thats what they want you to think. In reality it means the extension has to be asked for before parliamentary vote. Removes justification for an extension, without which we have to get no deal or BJ's. If it works (they refuse, dont accept extension) BJ has removed "people's vote".??? He was...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Oh, yes, I forgot twitter. Next time I need to know facts about something I, ll go on there.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Corbyn must have powers way beyond those credited to him. He knew all this before reading document. (He dismissed deal 26 mins before no10 published it) This highlights a glaring error in our system. Are MPs making decisions based on reality and benefit to country or are they doing so in efforts...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The Letwin result is a fair indication BJ would have lost his vote today. Had that been case BJ would be on ropes and in a far worse postion than he is now. EU would have demanded ref2/GE for a delay. As it is delay will be for another parliamentary vote. They might not grant it. Letwin might...