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They were not leaders Flecc. Attlee was and Corbyn is. You said "Corbyn is not the bogey man". He is, I explained as such. You always champion Corbyn, you have been taken in by his act. He is the least educated, least intelligent labour leader in history. He can not operate without notes, seems...

Thats rubbish Flecc. Attlee was without doubt a socialist but he was both pragmatic and realistic. He instigated our nuclear arms programme and having done so left nobody in anydoubt he would use it if absolutely required. Corbyn tries to please both sides, says he will fund Trident replacement...

Think you could be right but this mess is a consequence of weak majority, MPs not following either PM's wishes or manifesto. That will be same who ever gets in next time. Problem will be reading next manifesto from both Labour and Tory will be pointless.

And it will suit many of the MPs who voted against her deal, even the Labour ones. I still think no deal is most likely outcome.

Only if he wins Woosh, just a tad jumping to conclusions. You, ve seen on here general feeling he is not capable,but that might make him eminently suitable.

I cant quite believe that flecc. You perhaps rightly see leaving EU as an unknown and problematic process but think Corbyn (and Co) could actually run country with any modicum of success. Surely we, ve seen his capability, policies and associations to know he cant.??? https://mol.im/a/6867499...

Brexit has proved a couple of truths. For majority of time MPs are totally unneeded, redundant and neither productive or actually doing anything. But when called upon to do something, even though with clear instructions, resources and systems in place they are totally incapable of achieving...

https://mol.im/a/6865515 ????

Good post.

Good point. Nearly everyone will be in a similar predicament made worse by MPs being able to vote against their own manifest which got them there in first place. Its going to be a shambles for years,probably made worse by a GE.. Anybody else wondered how Blair would have dealt with Bercow. A...

Oyster, put the joint out.

I dont think there is any difference these days... Have you actually watched MPs and MEPs these days, were itt fiction folk would say its too far fetched...

Didnt have time to replace Borg with EU but you get point. Probably.

Just think though, we could appoint OG, JA and Farage as MEPs.Oh what fun on train to Brussels. Would be worth listening to...

. Yes, fair point, and ofcourse many still think hard brexit is a good idea. Thats exactly whats causing the constipation in Parliament. That and fact many seem to think stipping May's deal will mean Remain. It doesnt yet, it might, but nobody knows. The massive problem for both Tory and Labour...

https://mol.im/a/6863867 Things like this make no deal very likely.

Fingers, dont rule out no deal quite yet.. The only thing that stops me being convinced it will happen is fact many of our MPs want it!!! JA, stop being nasty. You make some good points and thought place was nicer without OG.

"Eurosceptic but not brexiteer" sums him up, but he wants to leave EU, has never supported any EU initiatives, openly opposing many and expects voters to understand that. He has exactly same none stance on defence. Its exactly why he is unelectable before we even go into his financial stance...

All that would have happened without Corbyn. There is little evidence to attribute any of that to his actions, well lack of them. Had he bad a credible and constant opinion on remaining, and actually opposed the government, worded his manifesto to represent an opposition rather than trying to...

You dont think Labour have managed to get under zero kelvin then? Yes, May has made some awful decisions, calling last GE probably her worst, but she has shown some positive traits,perseverance /obstinance, but Labour and Corbyn especially have not shown a single endearing quality, which has...