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  1. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Ah yeah!....but.....as Herr Goebbels once said, 'You can never have too much propaganda!' His theory was that if you told a lie, a really big lie, and told it often enough, the masses would come to believe it implicitly. The tories and their friends who own the propaganda houses media...
  2. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yes, I agree and see it as part of the old adage that 'Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely', frequently attributed to Lord Acton in a letter he wrote in 1887. Tom
  3. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    As one who likes to read what we have come to know as 'conspiracy theories', I enjoyed reading the 'Vox Political' take on the latest news about the Salisbury and Amesbury poisoning cases. You can have a read here...
  4. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The news today has the fact that 'Amazon' has now emulated the recent announcement that 'Apple' is worth over $1tn. I wonder if there is any danger of them paying their taxes properly any time soon! Tom
  5. oldtom

    Woman fighting for life after 'e-bike' hit-and-run in east London

    You could well be right there 'Ajax' but the term 'idiot' rolls off the tongue much easier. I also use that term to describe those cyclists who choose to get up close and personal with the nearside of large vehicles as has happened, with fatal results, a number of times in central London in...
  6. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That is simply drivel! Do you have something against Germany? Do you understand sovereignty? Have you ever read modern history? It is no longer a mystery why you have been so reluctant to furnish the forum with any benefits 'Brexit' is likely to bring about - you really don't have a clue...
  7. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    There is a better plan - A50 withdrawal! The terms and conditions of EU membership are much better than any other trade agreement available anywhere. In 4 months time, the € will be 20 years old although it took about three years after 1999 before it became the official 'hands-on' currency...
  8. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I do! We already enjoy the best deal in town and pay a reasonable price for the benefits it has provided over the years and continues to provide. Why should we swap that for anything just 'nearly' as good? The future for the countries of Europe is inside an EU which will eventually encompass...
  9. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It's such a shame about Jaywick as it could and should be a nice little seaside resort. Instead, it's like a pikey traveller site only not quite so posh! Clacton, of course, is a step up in class by comparison and there's a good chance your car will still have its alloys attached when you...
  10. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    What breathtaking arrogance from someone who seems completely unable to produce in this forum any genuine benefit 'Brexit' might produce! Bereft of any definitive positives that we have waited almost two years to hear, you declare your belief, as described in quotes, as a reason to secede...
  11. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Permit me responding to your reply to OG but you have certainly fooled me - I could have sworn your only intention in entering this 'Brexit' and associated political matters discussion is because you want a quarrel. You display all the characteristics of an internet troll, none more so than...
  12. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So why did you vote for 'Brexit', presuming you so did? Moreover, why are you still/now of the opinion that 'Brexit' is a good thing? Surely there has to be a substantial benefit for the British people in leaving the EU or what would be the point? I can't believe that any intelligent person...
  13. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You seem very reluctant to furnish readers here with a list or even one benefit we will receive by exiting the EU. Perhaps you are just a troll; entering this thread simply to annoy and spout nonsense. I'll ask again; how will 'Brexit' benefit me and how will it benefit the UK? Tom
  14. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Another day, another poll: There's more on that here: https://www.mumsnet.com/politics/seven-out-of-ten-mumsnet-users-want-vote-on-brexit-deal Tom
  15. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Here is another of those incredibly accurate infographics, this one depicting exactly the point in history where the UK was strong economically. I'd guess the 'Brexidiots' think the UK was at the height of its powers much later: Tom
  16. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Someone has drawn up a pictorial diagram of how UKippers and the extreme right view the rest of the world and it strikes me as being uncannily accurate!:) Tom
  17. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It certainly isn't out of the question and for the sake of those that come after us, I sincerely hope that the UK remains and contributes to the future growth and prosperity of the EU, perhaps even a more formal USofE. Tom
  18. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    He couldn't just retire gracefully, no longer required by government or by his former profession - he cannot seem to accept that his former celebrity status has now disappeared and with it the automatic invites to those huge, posh dinners at Mansion House and the like. Maybe he should ask the...
  19. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Very descriptive 'Wicky' and very accurate too, in my experience! I have come across a whole raft of that ilk whose aspirations equate to a return to 1950s Britain, a country then with relatively few foreign people and totally incorrectly immortalised in the TV production of 'The darling buds...
  20. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    This is two things: 1) The result of an orchestrated campaign by Jews and tories to discredit the Labour Party and Jeremy Corbyn in particular. Culminating in, 2) A classic example of the tail wagging the dog. Tom