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  1. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I beg to differ 'Danidl' for this reason: At this moment, both sides of that Spanish border are EU states. Immediately the UK removes itself from the EU, different checks and responsibilities will require to be in place at that same border checkpoint otherwise Gibraltar could become a...
  2. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Are you sure about that Dave? I have witnessed just how difficult that border crossing can become when the Spanish authorities decide to remind the UK that pedestrian and motorised traffic only crosses over as they see fit. We should not forget that London, Scotland, NI and Gibraltar all voted...
  3. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The Independent usefully pointed out that the Orange Order NI government seems to pick and choose which pieces of UK legislation it observes: brexit-northern-ireland-dup-abortion-equal-marriage-dup-doesn-t-mind-diverging-from-the-uk-a8093096.html It seems strange to me that people seem to be...
  4. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    They're all at sea - let's have another election! brexit-divorce-bill-pay-no-trade-deal-philip-hammond-theresa-may-eu-latest-a8095201.html Tom
  5. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    This speaks for itself: Tom
  6. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Why do I hate tory scum so much? This is why: Every single person who has ever voted for a tory politician killed that woman and there are thousands like her who have died prematurely, many at their own hand solely because of this tory government's implementation of murderous policies. Tom
  7. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Any decent person caught deliberately telling lies would be in trouble. Once upon a time MPs caught so doing would apologise to the house and to the country, the wealthy ones would resign and take up positions with major organisations as grateful thanks for all the influence misused on their...
  8. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The American warmonger seems to be preparing to make a speech which may ignite a major war, perhaps not immediately, but the middle-east will not be a peaceful place if Jerusalem is recognised as the Israeli capital. Bonehead Boris waffled through an interview with the headline comment that...
  9. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Regardless of whatever deal should come to pass, the tory party and their media wing will present it as a great victory and achievement for them over the nasty Europeans. Lying and cheating are in their DNA and they will never change. When the resultant, disastrous consequences finally hit...
  10. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It would be better for everybody if they just listened to an old considered opinion as agreed by Ella Fitzgerald and Louis Armstrong..... Tom
  11. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Here is an explanation of some political systems: Tom
  12. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    There may yet be a saviour for those being dragged out of the EU against their will: Tom
  13. oldtom

    EBMA files an anti dumping complaint on chinese e-bikes.

    I read through the accompanying material David but I'm not clear at all about the effect this will have. I'm guessing that it will affect only those ebike sellers across the EU who source their products from China but does it apply (if I'm correct) to bicycle parts for assembly by third parties...
  14. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I have this vision of all of the abovementioned playing characters from 'One flew over the cuckoo's nest' with the drippy Theresa May struggling to act the part of Nurse Ratched.:D Tom
  15. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I'm not aware of whose idea it was to use this piece of creative nomenclature but I can't help but think of the old Danny Kaye song about the King's new clothes - there seems to be something analogous about it, particularly when it's directed towards the kind of naive people who are susceptible...
  16. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    There can be no doubt that more and more people have wakened up to the preposterousness of the tory government's feeble-minded attempt to railroad through this ill-conceived idea. Full membership of the EU and a voice at the top table where we can contribute to the shape and direction of the...
  17. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    A little levity is useful in this thread to punctuate all the doom and gloom prospects brought upon us by all the 'Brexidiot' simpletons. Here is Mark Steel with an explanation of why the country is apparently broke: Tom
  18. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    If those are the items you are stocking up with for the festive period, I'm impressed by your taste, most of which I agree with.....apart from the 'Bud', so can I come round your gaff for Christmas?:) Tom
  19. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It looks very much like the tory propaganda organs really don't know how to present the ongoing fiasco over 'Brexit' any more, such is the variety of disinformation making the headlines: blogs-the-papers-42217558 Tom
  20. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The despicable incompetent keeping the seat warm for a proper PM continues to lie in answer to every question posed to her. Those who have suggested that we will get a really poor deal out of the 'Brexit' negotiations but with such a deal presented as if it is a great victory for the...