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  1. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    This will be my next passport cover if I decide to have another British one....... Tom
  2. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    There's a lovely little clip attached which shows Frankie Boyle and Akala discussing racism. Of course, the truth contained will be wasted on the 'Brexidiot' lowlifes whose main motivation for voting in the referendum was entirely based on hatred of foreign people. Towards the end, there is an...
  3. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    For the benefit of the herd, it is sometimes necessary to cull certain individual creatures. The sooner we apply that rationale to the British elite, the quicker this country can be transformed into a socialist democracy. how-the-aristocracy-preserved-their-power Tom
  4. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The last socialist government left office in 1979 so after 38 years of nothing but right-wing and extreme right-wing government, the UK is in fine fettle, a major trading power with a buoyant and burgeoning economy and strong currency. If only! That must be the fault of the socialists, the...
  5. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Your grasp of economics is coloured by the lies forced upon you and millions of others by the tory propaganda wing, aka the mainstream media. WW1 and WW2 failed to actually bankrupt the country as proved to be the case with our involvement in a whole raft of other hostile military actions our...
  6. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So, when all else is failing and the government desperately need further support, the PM decides to play the race card. Her fascist party has been floundering under the weight of a task simply beyond the intellect of her appointed 'negotiators' so it's important to keep the troops onside and...
  7. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It's just another lie. Indeed, it's basically the same lie as was used to keep us out of the common currency. To suggest that France, Germany, Italy et al lost their sovereignty, their identity, their independence or anything at all when the € was adopted as the common currency proved to be a...
  8. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The mention of the military in a discussion about matters political reminded me of this which perhaps isn't too far removed from the kind of processes that occur within Westminster: Tom
  9. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That is a very common trait though not all service personnel are affected by it. Tom
  10. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The Labour Party has a right wing as well as a left and one doesn't need a crystal ball to recognise the 'Blairite' influence in the construction of this report, designed not to provide evidence of how 'Brexit' will improve the lot of the British people, but to undermine the Corbynite movement...
  11. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Are you suggesting that some people with such control over their tax matters do not tell the truth? Certainly, those poorer people comprising the main body of taxpayers locked into the PAYE system cannot cheat on their taxes and the same applies to those in receipt of benefits. Tom
  12. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Once again, it's all about the money with you. The EU is more than just a trading bloc and if you object to the costs contained therein for our membership, then you might equally ask a similar question about the disbursement of the UK's foreign aid budget.......and who decides on the...
  13. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    As has been recorded on many previous occasions over the last 1,000 pages, the general public was lied to. If you wish to quote me, please provide the context in which I made a comment. The full paragraph from which you selectively quote was this: It is entirely your choice to denigrate...
  14. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Here is the view of a publication that has been around for over a century and does not form part of the Murdoch empire: SUBSCRIBE from just £1 per issue New Statesman “The British establishment do not have a great track record when it comes to the great questions of their era … Time after...
  15. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I'll try to squeeze in this short post and leave the way clear for another correspondent to actually post number 20,000. It's an old clip but reveals what is wrong in the UK and it has nothing to do with EU membership: Tom
  16. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    OG has covered that in a subsequent post. All I will say to you is that it wasn't anyone from the disadvantaged sector of the population who provided the means and opportunity by which a 'bogeyman' would be created and held responsible for all the UK's ills. Neither was it anyone from that...
  17. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I think it is wholly deserving as you seem to have no empathy whatsoever with those ordinary folk trying desperately hard to eke a living from nasty employers who may not even pay minimum wage. Almost every post you have contributed to this thread has centred upon trade figures, percentages...
  18. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Presumably, you imagine that those who give of their time and pay their own expenses do not also put in hours at work to pay their bills and put food on the table? Is it only your personal wealth expansion and the continuation of that which motivates you? Frankly, I cannot equate the word...
  19. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Well, of course, you are entitled to voice your opinion, even if it's usually wrong as in your premise contained in the post I placed in quotes. Being an apologist for a fascist regime attempting to bully its way through 'negotiations' in Brussels, doesn't make you some kind of centrist member...
  20. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    'Centre ground in politics', I heard someone say. Where fascism is growing, based upon lies and hatred against any one group or groups, There can be no centre ground. Either you are with the fascists and part of the problem or you are ant-fascist, fighting against that evil, hopefully to...