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  1. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Keep your chin up OG. I have considerable experience in what you are going through at the present time and you have my sympathy. Tomorrow, I begin another gruelling saga of hospital appointments, scans, cancelled appts, repeated tests, scans, interspersed with consultants' appointments.....I'm...
  2. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Ok 'Danidl', clearly you are saying that Kerr is wrong. I listened to every word of his speech and A50 apparently requires no action on the part of the 27. If a country decides to abort a stated intention to secede, it seems that is the end of it. Tom
  3. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You still haven't done that research, have you? Tom
  4. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    'Danidl', I am under no illusion about 'Brexit' becoming a reality in one shape or another come March 2019 or later. However, your logic seems to exclude the possibility of any other position. Just for conjecture, if say, the UK had another snap election, the tories lost power and a new...
  5. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It doesn't seem to clarify anything; indeed, it is contrary, seemingly attempting to balance two arguments and come out with a different answer to that of a man responsible for the authorship of A50. We have not been made party to the legal opinion, (usually the province of the Attorney...
  6. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It isn't only Gove! Any political party that can see fit to select figures such as Gove and Johnson for important positions within government is a danger to the country. As for a politician explaining the financial consequences of leaving the EU by whichever method, that would be to imagine...
  7. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    'Danidl', forgive me for being a little pedantic but although I may have missed it, I'm unaware of any major political figure having adopted your stance in response to Kerr's comments on A50. Your use of the word 'sophistry' is interesting as that was exactly the accusation used by Kerr against...
  8. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The latest official line on the EU Irish border problem: Tom
  9. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The Christmas season brings with it some clever promotional material and great parodies: Tom
  10. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I don't think the expression, 'demand' was ever mentioned but 'rescind' and 'withdraw' were mentioned and EU spokespersons indicated that would be the most satisfactory outcome for all. Tom
  11. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Here's a few pics from the time of the first referendum on our membership of what has become the EU. There's a few nostalgic pics including one of a man in a top hat with an amazing pair of trousers! 14-incredible-photos-of-britains-1975-vote-to-stay-in-the-eu Tom
  12. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It's interesting that you should raise that possibility 'flecc' as I was seriously thinking, based on on some of 'PeterL's nonsensical contributions of late, that perhaps he had been in attendance earlier today along with some veterans at a service followed by a few, (maybe too many), snifters...
  13. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Just checked! You're not often right Pete but you're wrong again! The 8 words shows up in a little pink box in my post like this: Tom
  14. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Now that sounds to me like you're still in denial. Do you think I have perhaps been misled? Tom
  15. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No. Please get help soon although I fear it may already be too late. Tom
  16. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Well, I wouldn't know but you could ask the troll for his expert advice. My point was based on these 8 words However, if you tell me you believe that to be joined up, then obviously I have to respect your right to hold a different view of grammar from the normally accepted principles. Tom
  17. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Perhaps you didn't quite listen to all Kerr had to say yesterday, 'Danidl' but he was making exactly the point that we can withdraw and continue as normal at any time during the process. He made it very clear that May and others have been entirely wrong to suggest otherwise. Moreover, I can't...
  18. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Sometimes, your typing produces sentences that aren't quite joined up. I imagine your thinking is no different. Tom
  19. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Is there something I should know here? I don't think there's ever been an 'outing' in this forum but I'm a great believer in equality and same-sex stuff counts in that equality. Tom
  20. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    This is the message disseminated at the most recent Cabinet meeting just to remind waverers about the importance of togetherness: Tom